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Fargoer wrote:

中国人动不动就说　“丢脸”，译成英文 “lose face” 好像已经是被接受了的。但是本地人是否都懂它的意思，就很难说了。

lose face
if you lose face, you do something which makes you seem weak, stupid etc, and which makes people respect you less

He doesn’t want to back down (=accept defeat in an argument) and risk losing face.

Meaning
Lose face - Be humiliated; lose one's reputation.

Origin
'Lose face' began life in English as a translation of the Chinese phrase 'tiu lien'. That phrase may also be expressed in English as 'to suffer public disgrace', that is, to be unable to show one's face in public. In 1876, the consular official Sir Robert Hart published a series of essays - These from Land of Sinim - Essays on the Chinese question which included this observation:
"The country [China] begins to feel that Government consented to arrangements by which China has lost face; the officials have long been conscious that they are becoming ridiculous in the eyes of the people."

QHE wrote: Grammar



- “including him”, or “including I” ?

QHE wrote: missed points

David Lin wrote: An across-the-Atlantic linguistic issue

The British use of "corn" to mean "grain" in general is key here.


In fact, that was not the main point of what we were discussing.

QHE wrote:

《崇祯历书》
https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/崇祯历书

《崇祯历书》是大明崇祯年间为历法改革而编著的一部丛书，因由崇祯帝下令编纂故名[1]；又称《時憲曆》，此曆法及其修訂版本由清朝初年源用至今。该书在崇祯二年（1629年）九月由礼部左侍郎徐光启成立曆局开始编写，到崇祯七年（1634年）十一月编完[2]。由于徐光启在1633年病逝，之后的编纂工作由李天经主持。

编纂过程
在编纂过程中，曆局聘请来华耶稣会的龙华民（意大利人，参与短期编制）、罗雅谷（葡萄牙人）、邓玉函（瑞士人，参与短期编制）、汤若望（日耳曼人）等人参与译书，编译或节译哥白尼、伽利略、第谷、开普勒等著名欧洲天文学家的著作[7]。从崇祯二年到崇祯七年陆续编成书。

Xu Guangqi 徐光启
http://www-history.mcs.st-and.ac.uk/Biographies/Xu_Guangqi.html

《崇祯历书》在1634年编完之后并没有立即颁行新历。新历的优劣之争一直持续了10年。在《明史·曆志》中记录了发生过的8次中西天文学的较量，包括日食、月食、木星、水星、火星的运动[1]，最后崇祯帝“已深知西法之密”[3]，并在崇祯十六年（1643年）八月下定颁布新历的决心，但颁行《崇祯历书》的命令还没有实施，明朝就已灭亡。之后由留在北京城中的汤若望删改《崇祯历书》至103卷，并由顺治帝将其更名为《西洋新法历书》，於順治二年（公元1645年）頒行。其中100卷本《西洋新法历书》被收入《四库全书》，但因避乾隆（弘曆）讳，易名为《西洋新法算书》。

QHE wrote:

http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/en/decisions/11.COM/10.B.6
Nomination file no. 00647 / Dossier de candidature n° 00647

B.1. Name of the element in English or French

The Twenty-Four Solar Terms, knowledge of time and practices developed in China through observation of the sun’s annual motion


Les vingt-quatre périodes solaires, la connaissance du temps et les pratiques développées en Chine à travers l’observation du mouvement annuel du soleil


B.2. Name of the element in the language and script of the community concerned,
if applicable

二十四节气——中国人通过观察太阳周年运动而形成的时间知识体系及其实践


B.3. Other name(s) of the element, if any

The Twenty-four Solar Terms is also commonly known as the Twenty-four Solar Terms in Chinese Agricultural Calendar. The solar terms are: Beginning of Spring, Rain Water, Insects Awakening, Spring Equinox, Fresh Green, Grain Rain, Beginning of Summer, Lesser Fullness, Grain in Ear, Summer Solstice, Lesser Heat, Greater Heat, Beginning of Autumn, End of Heat, White Dew, Autumnal Equinox, Cold Dew, First Frost, Beginning of Winter, Light Snow, Heavy Snow, Winter Solstice, Lesser Cold, and Greater Cold.

David Lin wrote:

People living in Britain (including I) would not engage in such a discussion because ...

ysun wrote:


IMHO, it is incorrect to say "People living in Britain (including I) ...". It should be "People living in Britain (including me) ..." or "People living in Britain (me included) ..."

Please correct me if I am wrong.

Is It 'Feel Bad' or 'Feel Badly'?
We feel good about answering this question


"I feel so badly about correcting their grammar."

OR WAIT: "I feel so bad about correcting their grammar."

Which one is it? Feel is a verb, so shouldn't what comes after it be—and look like—an adverb?

The answer is: no.

feel-bad
Like 'be' or 'look', 'feel' is a linking verb. That means that "I feel bad" is correct—just like "I feel sad" (rather than "I feel sadly") or "that looks delicious" (rather than "that looks deliciously").

Feel is a particular kind of verb called a linking verb. (Another term for linking verb is copula or copulative verb.) Linking verbs are not like regular action verbs. They function only to connect the subject of a sentence or clause with words that describe or identify that subject. And those words are either adjectives (or adjective phrases) or nouns (or noun phrases).

There are a number of linking verbs in English, among them be, become, seem, and all of the sensory verbs: smell, look, taste, sound, and feel. And while each of these can also be used as an action verb, it's easy to tell when they're being used as linking verbs, as in these cases involving the sensory linking verbs:

Those pies smell delicious. NOT: Those pies smell deliciously.

The pies look perfect. NOT: The pies look perfectly.

The crust doesn't taste too sweet. NOT: The crust doesn't taste too sweetly.

Their chewing sounds loud. NOT: Their chewing sounds loudly.

I feel bad that you didn't get any pie. NOT: I feel badly that you didn't get any pie.

Except let's stop at that last one again because, unlike the other "NOT" versions, we do, in fact, hear and read it—and often from people who know their way around an English sentence.

The common wisdom is that it's a case of "hypercorrection": we apply a rule of grammar in a situation that isn't quite the right one, and the result is a nonstandard linguistic form or construction. In this particular case, people who have learned to favor "it hurt badly" over "it hurt bad," and "need it badly" over "need it bad," use "feel badly" because they assume it is similarly superior to "feel bad."

If this is the case, though, why don't we also hear "I feel sadly" or "I feel angrily"? And why don't we also hear constructions like "smell awfully" and "look deliciously"?

As we said above, most linking verbs can also be used as regular old action verbs. Pies look delicious (where look is a linking verb), but we can also look at pies (where look is an action verb). Feel can also be an action verb, and when it's functioning as an action verb it's commonly followed by an adverb:

I feel strongly that the pies should be shared equally.

And that's where the goofy grammarian's joke about people who feel badly being unable to experience tactile sensations or being capable only of apathy comes from.

But some people make a considered distinction between feel bad and feel badly, choosing feel bad when feel is about physical health and feel badly when feel is about an emotional state. Others switch them with just as much intention. These uses are established enough that some dictionaries (including Merriam-Webster Unabridged) cover badly as an adjective; it is, after all, following a linking verb.

There was a time, mostly in the 19th century and mostly because bad was thought to only mean "somewhat evil," that people were advised to use feel badly for both physical health and emotional states. Modern advisers recommend feel bad in both contexts.

Interestingly, the same folks typically approve the use of feel well to describe one's health and feel good to sing along to James Brown. Feel good is also approved for both. Well and good are both adjectives in these cases. Which is, of course, all well and good.

http://www.proz.com/post/1498312#1498312

Grammar Girl Celebrity Smack Down Apr 30, 2010

... bad versus badly

此话题还是贴到这儿来.

这个链接还有 podcast 可听, 且包括 Donald Trump 更正 Cyndi Lauper 的一小段实况录音 ...

http://www.quickanddirtytips.com/education/grammar/bad-versus-badly

hypercorrection
noun, Linguistics.
1.
the substitution, in an inappropriate context, of a pronunciation, grammatical form, or usage thought by the speaker or writer to be appropriate, resulting usually from overgeneralizing in an effort to replace seemingly incorrect forms with correct ones, as the substitution of between you and I for between you and me, by analogy with you and I as the subject of a sentence.

hypercorrection
noun
1.
a mistaken correction to text or speech made through a desire to avoid nonstandard pronunciation or grammar: ``between you and I'' is a hypercorrection of ``between you and me''

Definition of hypercorrect
:  of, relating to, or characterized by the production of a nonstandard linguistic form or construction on the basis of a false analogy (as “badly” in “my eyes have gone badly”)

Jianhong Jane Wang wrote:

I would say 'People living in Britain, including me, would not engage...'.

"Including" must take an object as a preposition.

including preposition
• There'll be eighteen people at the party, including you and me.

David Lin wrote:

Useful information. It shows how comprehensive the UNESCO screening procedure is as it includes other names available as well -- Grain Rain, Lesser Fullness and Grain in Ear. It proves again they aren't Chinglish as you suggested earlier.

Fargoer wrote:



都是这个“芒”字惹的祸。毕竟有芒的作物就是小麦、大麦、青稞、稻子这么几种。中文本身就有这许许多多的不同解释，太难为翻译了。

不过，“芒种”一词还可作另一种解释：稻麦类谷物的概称。见《周禮·地官·稻人》：“澤草所生。種之芒種。鄭司農云。芒種、稻麥也。” 由此观之，“芒种”和“忙种”就有了互通的桥。

[修改时间: 2017-04-09 04:18 GMT]

◎ 芒种 Mángzhòng
[Bearded Grain] 二十四节气之一, 在6月5、6或7日

芒
《周禮·地官·稻人》澤草所生，種之芒種。《註》芒種，稻麥也。

Mangzhong 芒種 (Bearded Grain)

http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/24/world/declaration-of-independence-england-trnd/index.html

Second copy of Declaration of Independence discovered
By Sophie Lewis, CNN

Updated 2:31 PM ET, Mon April 24, 2017




The Sussex Declaration is currently housed at the West Sussex Record Office in the UK.

(CNN)A second parchment copy of the Declaration of Independence has been found. In England, of all places.

It's a remarkable discovery, because the only other parchment manuscript copy of the historic document is housed behind glass at the National Archives in Washington, DC.

You see, most copies of the Declaration of Independence are just that -- copies. They are facsimiles of the one housed in the National Archives, which is called the Matlack Declaration and regarded as the official document.

ysun wrote:
　
　Mangzhong 芒種 (Bearded Grain)

QHE wrote:



http://www.unesco.org/culture/ich/en/decisions/11.COM/10.B.6

The Committee

1. Takes note that China has nominated the Twenty-Four Solar Terms, knowledge in China of time and practices developed through observation of the sun’s annual motion (No. 00647) for inscription...

The source of the "24 Solar Terms" comes from the Hong Kong Observatory, as cited by QHE. This reaffirms the use of "corn" to be in British English only due to the city's former British colony background, rather than the North American usage. It's another typical context dictating usage case.