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Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

cheveux chiffonnés

English translation:

bed-head

Added to glossary by Alain Pommet
Jul 4, 2007 09:31
16 yrs ago
French term

cheveux chiffonnés

French to English Other Textiles / Clothing / Fashion hairstyle
This is a hairstyle where it is intentional /fashionable.

I have already thought of 'messy' - maybe open to misinterpretation and 'tousled' which is a bit too literary.

This is for a young people's website. Could I just use 'look' i.e. 'messy look'?

Thanks for any help.
Proposed translations (English)
4 +6 bed-head
4 +2 tousled hair
4 +2 mussed up hair
4 +2 disheveled look (US spelling) or dishevelled look(UK sp.)
4 +1 the messy look
4 +1 bed hair... that windblown look
3 mushed-up
3 the ruffled look

Discussion

Sandra Petch Jul 5, 2007:
Hi Alain, no problem, as long as you got your answer. I should have entered it instead of my made-up expression "mushed up" !
Carmen Schultz Jul 4, 2007:
Actually, I found many references to "windblown hair,"as well as "messy hair" and "tousled' hair (although 'tousled' is a bit literary for the younger crowd)
Carmen Schultz Jul 4, 2007:
oops,sorryp the old comment was reposted(PLS disregard the 2nd one).
Click on the following link for some ideas hinging on' windblown hair"LooksWhen I say the natural or windblown look, you know what I mean, right? Sure you do. We have all seen it in the magazines and on television. ...
www.girlzone.com/looks/NaturalLook_lk.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
Carmen Schultz Jul 4, 2007:
What is your desired register? I would not think you want something too slangy or regional (typical to one area only) either if it's for publication or the like. I think messy would perhaps be better than 'mussy' as 'mussy' too pedestrian
Alain Pommet (asker) Jul 4, 2007:
Well it's specifically targeted at young people - possibly more for UK- it can't be too slangy but ideally quite laid-back at the same time. It's for a virtual world where this is one of the hair styles on offer. You've come up with some good suggestions but it would be good to know if these are what hairdressers themselves call this style.
Carmen Schultz Jul 4, 2007:
How about "windblown" hair? or even "tangled"? The windblown look/effect is used in beauty books sometimes (although 'tangled' is not as attractive perhaps) or even 'disarranged' hair
Carmen Schultz Jul 4, 2007:
What is your desired register? I would not think you want something too slangy or regional (typical to one area only) either if it's for publication or the like. I think messy would perhaps be better than 'mussy' as 'mussy' too pedestrian

Proposed translations

+6
1 hr
Selected

bed-head

I've seen this used a lot in UK advertising and it gets loads of yahoo hits; it even exists as a hair-products brand-name.

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Note added at 4 hrs (2007-07-04 14:17:26 GMT)
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I take your point of course, but I'm sure I remember the term being used well before it became a brand-name :http://www.doubletongued.org/index.php/dictionary/bed_head/
Peer comment(s):
agree Carmen Schultz : It could be a good solution for the young crowd,but the proviso is that it's also a trademark for a TIGI hair product.I Googled 'bed head' & most of the hits referred to the TIGI brand,thus you must be careful with term so as to avoid infringement
2 hrs
Thanks for proviso Carmen
agree Claire Chapman
5 hrs
Thanks Claire
agree Sarah Downing : This is DEFINITELY the one to use. Although, as Carmen points out, it is also a Tigi wax - "just got out of bed look" also sprang to mind, as GWC suggested above.
6 hrs
Thanks Sarah
agree Sandra Petch : Although I had already suggested this ;-)
19 hrs
Thanks and sorry, Sandra! My method is : look at query, see if I get a spontaneous answer, check it's not on the list of answers,and if not offer my suggestion; if I have 2 ideas I put them as alternatives in the answr box.
agree French Foodie : definitely
20 hrs
Thanks Mara
agree Odette Grille (X) : Exactly
21 hrs
Thanks Odette
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Well I can see which sort of question will draw a crowd on Proz! This is almost impossible for me to judge, as I am entirely dependent on your knowledge of the subject - but I am choosing the option which got the most peer agreement and was completely different from my own thoughts - but thanks for the warning about the tradename. Thanks everyone."
+2
6 mins

tousled hair

I think your choice is the best.

I have heard 'out of bed look' and cruder versions, but it is stylish and 'tousled' is classy
Peer comment(s):
neutral Sandra Petch : Nice word but not sure it's the right register for teenagers (as Alain says). / It's not a question of "pulling down" but of finding the right tone for the text.
8 mins
I am afraid you underestimate teenagers
agree Alanna Wilson-Duff : I also reckon teenagers are in the know when it comes to tousled
6 hrs
Thank you Alanna. I also think that we should not assume they don't know and if they don't we can help them learn rather than pull them downwards...
agree Claire Chapman : 'Just out of bed' but not 'tousled'. I know that you're going for class & I'm not arguing the point. Just stating what I believe to be best for the context.
7 hrs
Ok Claire, thanks for your comment. I like Just out of bed.
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11 mins

mushed-up

Mushed-up hair
Bed head

A couple of ideas...
Note from asker:
Hi, Just seen that one of your alternative answers was the one that got most peer agreement - sorry.. but thanks for your help.
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+2
13 mins

mussed up hair

to correct previous suggestion. Very frequently used.
Peer comment(s):
agree Sandra Petch : Thanks, I really thought it was mushed-up!
8 mins
agree Assimina Vavoula
17 mins
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+2
48 mins

disheveled look (US spelling) or dishevelled look(UK sp.)

chiffonné:
chiffonné (froissé) adj rumpled (crumpled)
chiffonné (débraillé, dépeigné) adj disheveled US
chiffonné (débraillé, dépeigné) adj dishevelled
chiffonné (fatigué) adj tired


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Note added at 50 mins (2007-07-04 10:21:28 GMT)
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Another option is : 'windblown hair'; 'hair with the windblown effect/look'


dishevel
A verb
1 tousle, dishevel, tangle

disarrange or rumple; dishevel; "The strong wind tousled my hair"
Category Tree:
move; displace
╚disarrange
╚tousle, dishevel, tangle


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Note added at 56 mins (2007-07-04 10:27:26 GMT)
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Could also say "tangled" hair

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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-04 10:35:14 GMT)
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WINDBLOWN LOOK is actually a nice way to describe the messy effect on hair:
Short Hair Buckhead Hairstyle SalonThese wildly different lengths create a full and windblown look for short hair . These wildly different lengths create a full and windblown look for short ...
www.atlantahairstyles.com/shorthair.htm - 22k - Cached - Similar pages


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Note added at 1 hr (2007-07-04 10:39:54 GMT)
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Another link:

www.girlzone.com/looks/NaturalLook_lk.html - 12k - Cached - Similar pages
Peer comment(s):
agree Odette Grille (X)
58 mins
thanks
agree Patrice
8 hrs
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+1
6 hrs

the messy look

Creating a Messy look is not as easy and spontaneous as it seems. That uncombed appearance requires work and ‘know-how’.
The perfect ‘Messy’ look has fullness without being too full or too rounded and has movement without being curled.

Reference:

http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art5244.asp

Note from asker:
Thanks for confirming that one of my ideas is a suitable translation.
Peer comment(s):
agree Carmen Schultz : simple and to the point
47 mins
hi Carmen :-)
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+1
6 hrs

bed hair... that windblown look

when I was a funky teenager (not all THAT long ago!) these were the words we used to describe our ever so cool 'I don't care how I look (but this do took me four hours and two cans of hair spray)' hair styles...
Peer comment(s):
neutral Carmen Schultz : these 2 ideas were already tossed but' bed hair' is too blah(bed head 'and 'windblown look' [see my answer for windblown] -- actually the answer of "I don't care how I look" effect is more original as these other two were already given by other answerers
39 mins
sorry about that carmen- was just reading the titles rather than the full entry...
agree Claire Chapman : bed hair - Wiktionary http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bed_hair
1 hr
thanks Claire
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7 hrs

the ruffled look

Avoids sounding too "grunge".
Reference:

http://www.haircuts.in/

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