Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
demi-bande de réglage
English translation:
adjustment / regulation half-band
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Tony M
Aug 3, 2015 16:44
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demi-bande de réglage
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Energy / Power Generation
Automatic Generation Control
This is from a call for technical offers for an automatic generation control/secondary reserve control system:
"Le pilotage automatique de la production (AGC) : le réglage secondaire fréquence puissance (RSFP) :
Actuellement, XXX dispose d’une fonction qui pilote automatiquement la réserve secondaire appelée RSFP.
Comme indiqué ci-dessus, l’adaptation rapide de la production à la consommation faite par le réglage primaire rétablit un nouvel équilibre laissant un écart de fréquence .
Elle provoque également des variations des échanges avec les pays frontaliers appelé .
Il y a ainsi un écart de réglage ACE = .
Le réglage secondaire a une action plus lente que le réglage primaire (de l’ordre de 800 secondes pour parcourir des deux **demi-bandes de réglage**).
"Le pilotage automatique de la production (AGC) : le réglage secondaire fréquence puissance (RSFP) :
Actuellement, XXX dispose d’une fonction qui pilote automatiquement la réserve secondaire appelée RSFP.
Comme indiqué ci-dessus, l’adaptation rapide de la production à la consommation faite par le réglage primaire rétablit un nouvel équilibre laissant un écart de fréquence .
Elle provoque également des variations des échanges avec les pays frontaliers appelé .
Il y a ainsi un écart de réglage ACE = .
Le réglage secondaire a une action plus lente que le réglage primaire (de l’ordre de 800 secondes pour parcourir des deux **demi-bandes de réglage**).
Proposed translations
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| 1 +3 | adjustment / regulation half-band |
Tony M
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Aug 10, 2015 20:03: Tony M Created KOG entry
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adjustment / regulation half-band
I've done quite a bit of work with these RSFP etc. systems, but I have to admit I've never come across this particular term before.
I would imagine it may be referring to the + and – 'bands' either side of the nominal parameters (voltage / frequency) — each of which amounts to one half of the overall adjustment band.
Note that if you have been using 'regulator' etc. for you other terms, you may find 'regulation' the better choice here; different authorities seem to prefer different terms here.
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For Johannes:
From Asker's source text:
réglage secondaire fréquence puissance (RSFP)
secondary frequency/power control
Large generating plants often use primary and secondary control in order to keep the alternators operating correctly within their operating zones; there are 2 distinct control loops, and quite often the secondary one is 'steered' remotely by the network manager (i.e. remotely from the actual production unit)
I would imagine it may be referring to the + and – 'bands' either side of the nominal parameters (voltage / frequency) — each of which amounts to one half of the overall adjustment band.
Note that if you have been using 'regulator' etc. for you other terms, you may find 'regulation' the better choice here; different authorities seem to prefer different terms here.
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For Johannes:
From Asker's source text:
réglage secondaire fréquence puissance (RSFP)
secondary frequency/power control
Large generating plants often use primary and secondary control in order to keep the alternators operating correctly within their operating zones; there are 2 distinct control loops, and quite often the secondary one is 'steered' remotely by the network manager (i.e. remotely from the actual production unit)
Peer comment(s):
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Johannes Gleim
: I never heard that either, but would support that interpretation, esp. regarding the frequency stabilisation. // I searched for "demi-bande de réglage" and added my results below, but could not decipher RSFP. Can you explain it?
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Danke, Johannes!
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Jennifer Levey
: Hmmm... Makes sense, in context. 'Agree', faute de mieux. A competent technical writer would perhaps have written (something like): "800 s. to sweep between the regulation range limits".
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Thanks, Robin! Yes, hard to see exactly what they were getting at, really.
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Daryo
: can't see what else could make sense
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Merci, Daryo ! Yes, it's really just that the term use din this way sound unfamiliar in EN. I think it's just the way of looking at it...
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Comment: "Thank you Tony. As you say, different authorities appear to prefer different terms. This seems a logical choice."
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Johannes Gleim
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Reference:
demi-bande de réglage
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
Unfortunately I don't know hwo to access similar EN pages without knowing the wanted term in advance.
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Documentation technique de référence
Article 4.1 – Réglage Fréquence/Puissance
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3.2 Le réglage secondaire fréquence – puissance
:
Le signal de commande envoyé aux groupes de production participant au réglage secondaire afin de modifier leur puissance de consigne prend la forme d’un signal NRSFP appelé « niveau de téléréglage » correspondant au ∆Pdi de l’UCTE (cf. §B.4 de l’Appendix 1 : « Load-Frequency Control and Performance » [i]). Ce niveau NRSFP est déterminé par l’équation suivante :
[formule}
avec :
α [MW/tour] = pente du réglage (gain intégral), valeur comprise entre 65 et 130,
β [MW/Hz] = gain proportionnel, pris égal à zéro.
Pr [MW] = demi-bande de réglage, ou total des participations, prj (cf. §4.2), des groupes appartenant à la zone de réglage.
Le niveau NRSFP est limité à la hausse à +1 et limité à la baisse à –1.
http://www.rte-france.com/uploads/Mediatheque_docs/offres_se...
Après perturbation, le réglage précédent - certes essentiel - stabilise néanmoins le système dans une situation plus ou moins dégradée de deux points de vue : le transit des puissances d’interconnexion (entre la France et le reste de l’Europe) s’en trouve modifié et, surtout, la fréquence générale du réseau s’est stabilisée à un niveau sensiblement différent des 50 Hz normalement requis. C’est au réglage secondaire fréquence-puissance que revient alors la responsabilité de rétablir la situation.
Ce réglage consiste à déplacer la courbe (linéaire) de statisme précédente, parallèlement à elle-même, à l’aide d’un procédé dont la commande centralisée est dans les mains du gestionnaire des mouvements d’énergie. Il est, en effet, loisible à ce dernier d’opérer un tel déplacement, sur tous les groupes du système, entre les niveaux de consigne N = -1 et N = +1, autour du niveau N = 0 correspondant à la puissance de consigne « 50 Hz ». Il impose ainsi à ces groupes de parcourir leur bande de participation secondaire dans la proportion qu’exige la situation résiduelle du réglage primaire de fréquence. Les niveaux -1 et +1 représentent donc les bornes du déplacement de la droite de statisme à l’intérieur la bande de participation secondaire.
Cette bande n’a pas, en pourcentage de la puissance nominale (Pn) du groupe, la même valeur sur tous les types d’outils de production. À titre d’exemple, la demi-bande de réglage (-1 à 0 ou 0 à +1), traditionnellement désignée par Pr, vaut 5 % de Pn dans le nucléaire, 10 % dans le THF et peut atteindre 25 % dans l’hydraulique. La valeur totale du Pr requis, dans notre pays, est fonction de la demande globale de puissance à un moment donné. Elle peut atteindre 2 à 2,2 GW en pointe d’hiver.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
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Grid Code
CHAPTER 4 – DISPATCHING REGULATIONS
The maximum (minimum) power of a significant production unit is the maximum (minimum) value of the maximum (minimum) power band declared for the unit.
The secondary power reserve half-band of a production unit is the maximum value of the secondary power reserve half-bands of the operating range declared for the unit
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Capacity for secondary reserve of a UoDS on an aggregate of zones is understood to be the sum of secondary reserve half-bands of the enabled units within its ownership, located in the aggregate; secondary reserve half-band of a unit, for those purposes, is understood to be the maximum value of the secondary reserve half-band associated with the operating ranges of the production unit, as registered in the RPU.
The UDs’ supplying of resources for the secondary power reserve consists in:
(a) in the planning phase or in the phase of real time management: autonomously making available the secondary reserve half-band in the updated cumulative programs for the enabled unit, or being available to accept modifications to these programs with the objective of making the half-band available;
(b) in the real time management phase: the secondary reserve band must be made subject to an automatic regulating device which is able to regulate the injection of electricity of the generator group based on the level signal calculated and sent by the Operator
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=97267
used abbreviations:
Users of the Dispatching Service (UoDS),
RPU (Registry of Produciton Units)
User of Dispatching (UoD)
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=99583
I deduct from this that half-band refers to the available power reserve and not to frequency or voltage ranges, but is used to stabilize frequency, voltage and power factor in the grid.
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Grid Code
CHAPTER 4 – DISPATCHING REGULATIONS
The maximum (minimum) power of a significant production unit is the maximum (minimum) value of the maximum (minimum) power band declared for the unit.
The secondary power reserve half-band of a production unit is the maximum value of the secondary power reserve half-bands of the operating range declared for the unit
:
Capacity for secondary reserve of a UoDS on an aggregate of zones is understood to be the sum of secondary reserve half-bands of the enabled units within its ownership, located in the aggregate; secondary reserve half-band of a unit, for those purposes, is understood to be the maximum value of the secondary reserve half-band associated with the operating ranges of the production unit, as registered in the RPU.
The UDs’ supplying of resources for the secondary power reserve consists in:
(a) in the planning phase or in the phase of real time management: autonomously making available the secondary reserve half-band in the updated cumulative programs for the enabled unit, or being available to accept modifications to these programs with the objective of making the half-band available;
(b) in the real time management phase: the secondary reserve band must be made subject to an automatic regulating device which is able to regulate the injection of electricity of the generator group based on the level signal calculated and sent by the Operator
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=97267
used abbreviations:
Users of the Dispatching Service (UoDS),
RPU (Registry of Produciton Units)
User of Dispatching (UoD)
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=99583
I deduct from this that half-band refers to the available power reserve and not to frequency or voltage ranges itself, but the available power reserve is used to stabilize frequency, voltage and power factor in the grid.
Unfortunately I don't know hwo to access similar EN pages without knowing the wanted term in advance.
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Note added at 14 days (2015-08-18 14:58:47 GMT) Post-grading
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Documentation technique de référence
Article 4.1 – Réglage Fréquence/Puissance
:
3.2 Le réglage secondaire fréquence – puissance
:
Le signal de commande envoyé aux groupes de production participant au réglage secondaire afin de modifier leur puissance de consigne prend la forme d’un signal NRSFP appelé « niveau de téléréglage » correspondant au ∆Pdi de l’UCTE (cf. §B.4 de l’Appendix 1 : « Load-Frequency Control and Performance » [i]). Ce niveau NRSFP est déterminé par l’équation suivante :
[formule}
avec :
α [MW/tour] = pente du réglage (gain intégral), valeur comprise entre 65 et 130,
β [MW/Hz] = gain proportionnel, pris égal à zéro.
Pr [MW] = demi-bande de réglage, ou total des participations, prj (cf. §4.2), des groupes appartenant à la zone de réglage.
Le niveau NRSFP est limité à la hausse à +1 et limité à la baisse à –1.
http://www.rte-france.com/uploads/Mediatheque_docs/offres_se...
Après perturbation, le réglage précédent - certes essentiel - stabilise néanmoins le système dans une situation plus ou moins dégradée de deux points de vue : le transit des puissances d’interconnexion (entre la France et le reste de l’Europe) s’en trouve modifié et, surtout, la fréquence générale du réseau s’est stabilisée à un niveau sensiblement différent des 50 Hz normalement requis. C’est au réglage secondaire fréquence-puissance que revient alors la responsabilité de rétablir la situation.
Ce réglage consiste à déplacer la courbe (linéaire) de statisme précédente, parallèlement à elle-même, à l’aide d’un procédé dont la commande centralisée est dans les mains du gestionnaire des mouvements d’énergie. Il est, en effet, loisible à ce dernier d’opérer un tel déplacement, sur tous les groupes du système, entre les niveaux de consigne N = -1 et N = +1, autour du niveau N = 0 correspondant à la puissance de consigne « 50 Hz ». Il impose ainsi à ces groupes de parcourir leur bande de participation secondaire dans la proportion qu’exige la situation résiduelle du réglage primaire de fréquence. Les niveaux -1 et +1 représentent donc les bornes du déplacement de la droite de statisme à l’intérieur la bande de participation secondaire.
Cette bande n’a pas, en pourcentage de la puissance nominale (Pn) du groupe, la même valeur sur tous les types d’outils de production. À titre d’exemple, la demi-bande de réglage (-1 à 0 ou 0 à +1), traditionnellement désignée par Pr, vaut 5 % de Pn dans le nucléaire, 10 % dans le THF et peut atteindre 25 % dans l’hydraulique. La valeur totale du Pr requis, dans notre pays, est fonction de la demande globale de puissance à un moment donné. Elle peut atteindre 2 à 2,2 GW en pointe d’hiver.
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd...
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Grid Code
CHAPTER 4 – DISPATCHING REGULATIONS
The maximum (minimum) power of a significant production unit is the maximum (minimum) value of the maximum (minimum) power band declared for the unit.
The secondary power reserve half-band of a production unit is the maximum value of the secondary power reserve half-bands of the operating range declared for the unit
:
Capacity for secondary reserve of a UoDS on an aggregate of zones is understood to be the sum of secondary reserve half-bands of the enabled units within its ownership, located in the aggregate; secondary reserve half-band of a unit, for those purposes, is understood to be the maximum value of the secondary reserve half-band associated with the operating ranges of the production unit, as registered in the RPU.
The UDs’ supplying of resources for the secondary power reserve consists in:
(a) in the planning phase or in the phase of real time management: autonomously making available the secondary reserve half-band in the updated cumulative programs for the enabled unit, or being available to accept modifications to these programs with the objective of making the half-band available;
(b) in the real time management phase: the secondary reserve band must be made subject to an automatic regulating device which is able to regulate the injection of electricity of the generator group based on the level signal calculated and sent by the Operator
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=97267
used abbreviations:
Users of the Dispatching Service (UoDS),
RPU (Registry of Produciton Units)
User of Dispatching (UoD)
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=99583
I deduct from this that half-band refers to the available power reserve and not to frequency or voltage ranges, but is used to stabilize frequency, voltage and power factor in the grid.
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Note added at 14 days (2015-08-18 15:32:44 GMT) Post-grading
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Grid Code
CHAPTER 4 – DISPATCHING REGULATIONS
The maximum (minimum) power of a significant production unit is the maximum (minimum) value of the maximum (minimum) power band declared for the unit.
The secondary power reserve half-band of a production unit is the maximum value of the secondary power reserve half-bands of the operating range declared for the unit
:
Capacity for secondary reserve of a UoDS on an aggregate of zones is understood to be the sum of secondary reserve half-bands of the enabled units within its ownership, located in the aggregate; secondary reserve half-band of a unit, for those purposes, is understood to be the maximum value of the secondary reserve half-band associated with the operating ranges of the production unit, as registered in the RPU.
The UDs’ supplying of resources for the secondary power reserve consists in:
(a) in the planning phase or in the phase of real time management: autonomously making available the secondary reserve half-band in the updated cumulative programs for the enabled unit, or being available to accept modifications to these programs with the objective of making the half-band available;
(b) in the real time management phase: the secondary reserve band must be made subject to an automatic regulating device which is able to regulate the injection of electricity of the generator group based on the level signal calculated and sent by the Operator
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=97267
used abbreviations:
Users of the Dispatching Service (UoDS),
RPU (Registry of Produciton Units)
User of Dispatching (UoD)
http://www.terna.it/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=99583
I deduct from this that half-band refers to the available power reserve and not to frequency or voltage ranges itself, but the available power reserve is used to stabilize frequency, voltage and power factor in the grid.
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