Mar 15, 2015 16:08
9 yrs ago
French term
délai d'amortissement court
French to English
Bus/Financial
Finance (general)
Specifications for a building product
Within the overall context of a set of tender specifications for a major building project. I am partly translating and partly correcting previous translations from a TM.
This is listed one of the 'plus points' of a building product — as it happens, pipe insulation.
I understand perfectly well what they mean by it: "our product is so reasonably-priced, it will quickly pay for itself"; something along the lines of 'rapid ROI', I should have thought (but that expression hardly fits in my context).
My problem is simply that the previous translator has translated it as 'short depreciation period', but I'm worried that might be read the wrong way round, as "will wear out quickly" — because of the double meaning of 'depreciation' in EN, in both its technical, financial meaning and in its more everyday sense.
This is BENELUX FR, from a document intended for a European readership.
This is listed one of the 'plus points' of a building product — as it happens, pipe insulation.
I understand perfectly well what they mean by it: "our product is so reasonably-priced, it will quickly pay for itself"; something along the lines of 'rapid ROI', I should have thought (but that expression hardly fits in my context).
My problem is simply that the previous translator has translated it as 'short depreciation period', but I'm worried that might be read the wrong way round, as "will wear out quickly" — because of the double meaning of 'depreciation' in EN, in both its technical, financial meaning and in its more everyday sense.
This is BENELUX FR, from a document intended for a European readership.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 3 +6 | short payback period (or time) |
Marco Solinas
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| 4 +2 | short cost recovery time |
Ana Vozone
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| 4 +1 | will quickly pay for itself |
Daryo
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| 3 | short repayment period |
liz askew
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Proposed translations
+6
50 mins
Marco Solinas
Native in English
Specializes in field
Accurate, professional translations
Native in: English 
, Italian
Works in: Italian to English, French to English
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87
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short payback period (or time)
I always used this expression when I worked in the pulp and paper industry. See: http://www.accountingformanagement.org/payback-method/
for a description.
for a description.
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
liz askew
38 mins
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| agree |
Steffen Walter
51 mins
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| agree |
Francois Boye
: This is also the expression chosen by the EU terminology
1 hr
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| agree |
Patrice
6 hrs
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| agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
9 hrs
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| agree |
Francis Murphy (X)
: I always used this expression in selling industrial capital equipment, USA and Europe
1 day 4 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks a lot, Marco! Although I was a little worried about the register, this is what I ended up using, and the customer seems satisfied."
+2
24 mins
Ana Vozone
Specializes in field
Will do!
Native in: Portuguese (Variant: European/Portugal) 
Works in: English to Portuguese, French to Portuguese, German to Portuguese, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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48
short cost recovery time
Several occurences, I hope this helps!
https://www.google.pt/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&es...
https://www.google.pt/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&es...
Example sentence:
... extraordinary energy savings - optimal lighting quality and ergonomics at work - simple design, installation and use - short cost recovery time.
These benefits mean a short cost recovery time for this new product.
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your contribution Ana! I feel sure this would be a good solution in some contexts, but wasn't the best fit in my particular instance. |
1 hr
short repayment period
Peachy Payday Loans - Online Payday Loan Providers in UK
https://www.peachy.co.uk/payday-loans
The main difference between payday loans and other loans you can get in the financial market is the short repayment period. Ideally, upon taking your payday ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-03-15 17:36:32 GMT)
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oh
look at this
Kaifoam PE: Product Information - Kaimann
www.kaiflex.co.uk/products/KaiflexPE.html
Silver-grey polyethylene pipe insulation for domestic heating, hot and cold water ... pipework; Easily installed without adhesive or tape; Short payback period ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-03-15 17:37:14 GMT)
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How Many Barrels of Oil Can Mechanical Insulation Save?
www.insulation.org/articles/article.cfm?id=IO050505
So, in terms of total U.S. energy consumption, it is worthwhile taking a look at ..... to seeing extremely short payback periods for insulating hot service pipes and ...
https://www.peachy.co.uk/payday-loans
The main difference between payday loans and other loans you can get in the financial market is the short repayment period. Ideally, upon taking your payday ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-03-15 17:36:32 GMT)
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oh
look at this
Kaifoam PE: Product Information - Kaimann
www.kaiflex.co.uk/products/KaiflexPE.html
Silver-grey polyethylene pipe insulation for domestic heating, hot and cold water ... pipework; Easily installed without adhesive or tape; Short payback period ...
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Note added at 1 hr (2015-03-15 17:37:14 GMT)
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How Many Barrels of Oil Can Mechanical Insulation Save?
www.insulation.org/articles/article.cfm?id=IO050505
So, in terms of total U.S. energy consumption, it is worthwhile taking a look at ..... to seeing extremely short payback periods for insulating hot service pipes and ...
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your contribution, Liz! Because of the potential ambiguity of 'repayment' (as indeed highlighted by your initial ref.), I don't think this would be the best solution in my particular instance. |
+1
4 hrs
will quickly pay for itself
the idea is more
"our product is so efficient [in preventing heat-dissipation] that it will quickly pay for itself [through the reduced costs of heating]"
this insulation is probably significantly more expensive, but it also ways better at preventing the heat vanishing in thin air, so the additional cost of putting a better thermal insulation is quickly recovered from savings on reduced loss of heat.
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Note added at 23 hrs (2015-03-16 15:50:41 GMT)
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but is also ways better at preventing heat from ...
"our product is so efficient [in preventing heat-dissipation] that it will quickly pay for itself [through the reduced costs of heating]"
this insulation is probably significantly more expensive, but it also ways better at preventing the heat vanishing in thin air, so the additional cost of putting a better thermal insulation is quickly recovered from savings on reduced loss of heat.
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Note added at 23 hrs (2015-03-16 15:50:41 GMT)
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but is also ways better at preventing heat from ...
Note from asker:
| Thank you for your suggestion, Daryo! I am quite sure you have interpreted the meaning correctly, and in many contexts, this would be the best translation solution; however, it would sit slightly uneasily in the much more formal register of my document, so I shan't be able to use it on this occasion. |
Discussion
A perfect example how the "normal/standard" translation can be totally wrong, although there is some basic similarity between "getting your money back" trough depreciation of assets and through savings on costs.
Can we see your exact context please?