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Glossary entry

German term or phrase:

Nicht hineinfassen

English translation:

Do not touch (the) inside, do not reach into/inside

Added to glossary by Marc Svetov
Sep 4, 2013 20:15
10 yrs ago
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German term

Nicht hineinfassen

German to English Tech/Engineering Mechanics / Mech Engineering Warning sign
"Nicht hineinfassen"

Warnschild.

Warning sign.
Proposed translations (English)
4 -1 Do not touch (the) inside, do not reach into
3 +6 Do not reach into running equipment
4 +3 Keep hands clear
4 hands off
3 Keep hands out of machinery

Discussion

Nora Morrison Sep 7, 2013:
Hi Guys, @Johannes: True, these cover all possible risks, equipment running, or not. However, to the English native ear, these might sound a bit "awkward?", hence the other proposals, which, albeit more English, nevertheless do not precisely reflect the (non-specific) Austrian warning message. I would agree that covering all possible risks supersedes linguistic smoothness.

@Marc: *Hands off!* or *Keep hands clear!* would also cover all potential risks. But if the sign was posted, say, near a control handle/button close to a (dangerous) opening, these would be confusing. Therefore, you might consider asking Client for more detailed specifications. It is a fact that English is precise, while German (i.p. Austrian!) can be painfully vague at times.
Johannes Gleim Sep 6, 2013:
Yes, for me it's enough The risk is probably of mechanical or dynamical nature, like moving parts. But the machine may exhibit further risks, like touching live parts. So, a warning "Do not touch (the inside)!" or "Do not reach into!" is sufficient, to exclude all dangers inherent to the machine, either running or not.

But you will remark, that most peers add something like "running machine", even not stated and not considering that hold-on machine may also contain dangerous parts, like live parts.
Marc Svetov (asker) Sep 6, 2013:
Vacuum packaging machines Dear Johannes and other colleagues,
the sentence is unfortunately very brief. It concerns vacuum packaging machines, conveyorized machines, i.e. belt machines, made in Austria. Isn't that enough context? Anyway, thanks for all your help! I appreciate it greatly.
Johannes Gleim Sep 6, 2013:
@ Marc Some peers are complaining and disagreeing, as the kind of danger is not translated and that some proposals are incomplete phrases. But you posted a incomplete phrase without object to translate. How can we anticipate the object of the phrase? In fact, we do not know, what the danger consists of. Two peer added "equipment" or "machinery", but this is only a guess and is no real translation as the phrase has no object.

I asked you twice ago, but did not got any answer! Please help us to help you!
Marc Svetov (asker) Sep 5, 2013:
There is no further wording There is no further wording. It concerns vacuum packaging machines -- i.e. conveyorized automated machines, belt machines -- for the vacuum-packaging of foodstuffs. There are only two words for the warning sign: "Nicht hineinfassen." That's it.
Johannes Gleim Sep 5, 2013:
No further context? Is the machine running? What are the full wordings? Please post the text around!
Marc Svetov (asker) Sep 5, 2013:
Vacuum packaging machines Vacuum packaging machines, Vakuumverpackugnsmaschinen. Conveyorized machines, belt machines, etc., for foodstuffs.
Nora Morrison Sep 5, 2013:
Context matters ... or does it?
Ich plädiere für *Keep Hands Clear!*
Johannes Gleim Sep 5, 2013:
... bei laufender Maschine ... if the machine is running.

Is this the full phrase or not? Can you inform us about the type of machinery, the type of risk and the context around this warning?

Proposed translations

-1
14 hrs
Selected

Do not touch (the) inside, do not reach into

Warnung vor Handverletzungen Bitte nicht hineinfassen
:
Warning for hand hurting Please do not touch inside
http://www.weidmueller.cz/files/download/download-sekce/prin...

Verbote:
Nicht hineinfassen
:
Prohibitions:
No touching inside
http://gude.gude.sk/manual/95138_ml.pdf

DANGER
Pinch Point
Hand/Finger Injury
Stage/Chuck Moves Unexpectedly
Keep Hands Clear

GEFAHR
Quetschgefahr
Hand-/Fingerverletzung
Stage/Chuck bewegt sich unerwartet
Nicht hineinfassen
ftp://ftp.cmicro.com/Service/Manuals/141-389-A Elite 300 Use...

Verletzungsgefahr durch bewegte Teile.
Nicht hineinfassen.
:
Risk of injury on account of moving parts.
Do not reach in
http://www.kaercher.de/document/BTA-5279356-000-03.pdf

Risk of injury
Do not touch the inside.
:
Verletzungsgefahr
Nicht hineinfassen.
http://ws.sel.sony.com/PIPWebServices/RetrievePublicAsset/St...

Bei Betätigung der Brandschutzklappe (BSK) darf nicht in den gekennzeichneten Bereich hineingefasst werden, da sonst Verletzungsgefahr besteht.
trox.de
Do not reach into the marked area when the fire damper (FD) is in use since there is a risk of injury.
trox.ae

Übergänge sind sicher zu gestalten: Ein Hineinfassen darf nicht möglich sein und ist, wenn es nicht durch konstruktive Maßnahmen verhindert werden kann, durch Schutzeinrichtungen auszuschließen.
sartorius-mechatronics.com
Transition points must be designed safely: It must not be possible to reach into such areas, and if this cannot be prevented through physical measures, it must [...]
sartorius-mechatronics.com

Wir bieten Ihnen unter folgenden Artikelnummern passende Seitenschutzbleche an, die die Sicherheit erhöhen und ein Hineinfassen in die beweglichen Teile des Stoffschiebers unmöglich machen.
watergates.de
With following article numbers you can order suitable side protections, witch increase the safety and makes impossible to reach the movable parts.
watergates.de

Ein weiteres Problem ist die Übertragung von Keimen über ein Präparat von einem Menschen zum anderen, insbesondere bei den immer noch sehr beliebten Tiegelprodukten, die durch häufiges Öffnen und Hineinfassen besonders anfällig sind.
dermaviduals.at
A further problem is the transmission of germs from one person to another via cosmetic products especially when using the still very popular jar products which are particularly sensitive due to the frequent opening and reaching into them.
dermaviduals.at

Niemals mit den Händen in den offenen Saugoder Druckkanal hineinfassen.
gardnerdenverproducts.com
Never reach with your hands in the open suction or pressure duct.
http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?source=auto&qu...

(7) Der Unternehmer hat Gefahrbereiche zu kennzeichnen und durch dauerhafte Abgrenzungen oder Schutzeinrichtungen so zu sichern, dass während des Betriebes Personen nicht hineingreifen, hineingelangen oder sich darin aufhalten können.
narda-sts.de
(7) The employer shall identify and protect hazardous areas by means of permanent barriers or protective devices in order to ensure that during operation no person can reach into, enter or remain within these areas.
narda-sts.de

Nicht durch geöffneten Saug- oder Druckstutzen in die G-BH100 hineingreifen!
gd-elmorietschle.com
Do not reach into the G-BH100 through open suction or delivery branches!
gd-elmorietschle.com

Nicht in den Hohlraum hinter der Steuerung hineingreifen.
grundfosalldos.com
Do not reach into the void behind the control unit.
grundfosalldos.com
http://www.linguee.de/deutsch-englisch/search?source=auto&qu...



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Note added at 20 hrs (2013-09-05 17:05:36 GMT)
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Some pictures for „Do not touch“
https://www.google.de/search?lr=&hl=de&q="Do not touch the i...
“do not reach into”
https://www.google.de/search?lr=&hl=de&q="Do not touch the i...

Note: During my professional career as approval engineer I have often read and edited Safety Warnings. I do remember both phraseologies such as:
“Do not touch live parts”
“Do not touch inside …”
“Do not reach into … (anything, running or not)
Peer comment(s):
neutral Cilian O'Tuama : No proof. And both your examples are not proper English as they stand; they require an object.
4 hrs
I have three times "do not touch inside" and eight times "do not reach into". Which reference is criticized? The German phrase has no object either.
neutral Nora Morrison : @Cilian: not necessarily proof, but a warning that specific settings require specific warnings?
5 hrs
all depends on the particular risk, which the asker did not specify yet, even being asked for.
disagree Lancashireman : Even if the machine operator does not "touch" the inside, his/her hand may be injured by moving parts. "Do not reach into" is syntactically incomplete.
7 hrs
"Nicht hineinfassen" is incomplete either. I cannot add a subject, the risk is not disclosed (moving, hot, cold or live parts, etc). We have to translate an incomplete phrase. / Live parts are always dangerous, even the machine has stopped.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
+6
3 mins

Do not reach into running equipment

That might work. See the link.

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Note added at 4 mins (2013-09-04 20:19:37 GMT)
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Link has lots of others: "Keep hands clear" might fit, too.
Reference:

http://www.mysafetysign.com/Safety-Signs/Hazard-Reach-Running-Equipment-Sign/SAF-SKU-S-2635.aspx?engine=googlebase&keyword=Machine+Safety+Si

Peer comment(s):
agree Inge Meinzer
2 mins
agree Ramey Rieger (X) : I guess it has to said, doesn't it?
15 mins
I worked for a plastics machine manufacturer once -- The things I saw, I still shudder.
neutral Heather McCrae : how do you know the object in question is "running equipment"?
8 hrs
agree David Moore (X)
10 hrs
neutral Edith Kelly : with Heather, also nicht hineinfassen if machine is not running and could start up or be started up.
12 hrs
neutral Johannes Gleim : "laufende Maschine" was not asked.
14 hrs
agree Lancashireman : ... with "See the link" // Bizarre outcome: "Do not reach into!"
14 hrs
agree Wendy Streitparth : With "keep hands clear"
17 hrs
neutral freekfluweel : Bit long for a warning sign...
17 hrs
agree Gudrun Maydorn (X)
1 day 18 hrs
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1 hr

Keep hands out of machinery

Lots of variations that might work here...
Reference:

http://www.northernsafety.com/Product/30351/NS-Signs-Warning-Keep-Hands-Out-Of-Machinery-with-Graphic-ANSI-Safety-Sign

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4 hrs

hands off

I would say ...

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-09-05 00:53:09 GMT)
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don't touch

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-09-05 00:53:40 GMT)
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has to be something short and pithy

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-09-05 00:56:22 GMT)
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like "keep clear"

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Note added at 4 hrs (2013-09-05 00:56:52 GMT)
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and there'a another option
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+3
9 hrs

Keep hands clear

or
Keep hands away

To add another short version

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Note added at 9 Stunden (2013-09-05 05:30:11 GMT)
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Sorry, didn't see the note added by jcccantrell, still prefer this version though
Reference:

http://www.google.de/imgres?biw=1680&bih=874&tbm=isch&tbnid=gQhXrBpf6EslsM:&imgrefurl=http://www.freestockphotos.biz/stockphoto/9964&docid=b

http://www.google.de/imgres?biw=1680&bih=874&tbm=isch&tbnid=-zzkGseDcLypGM:&imgrefurl=http://www.accidental.com.au/keep-hands-clear-warning-

Peer comment(s):
agree David Hollywood : I think "keep hands clear" is a good option
12 hrs
thanks David
neutral Lancashireman : It is permissible to agree with an answer already given, even if it was provided as an afterthought at 3 mins + 4 mins and does not feature as the headline term.
13 hrs
As I added (almost immediately) I didn't see the note until after I'd posted my entry
agree Wendy Lewin
13 hrs
thanks WML
neutral Ramey Rieger (X) : Hi Lis! Yes, it's a good suggestion, but unfortunately already made. That happens sometimes.
15 hrs
As I added (almost immediately) I didn't see the note until after I'd posted my entry
agree Gudrun Maydorn (X)
1 day 9 hrs
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