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Spanish term or phrase:
mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y
English translation:
whilst we still haven\'t managed to close the gap between rich and poor
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mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y
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Might need to turn the sentence around, I had thought of while we still have too many rich people and too many poor" or something along those lines, suggestions much appreciated thanks
diferencias sociales, mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y menos pobres y mientras no haya paz en los corazones y en los espíritus .Tengan ustedes la plena seguridad de que la compañera Evita viene con más bríos que nunca a seguir siendo el puente espiritual entre los descamisados y el general Perón; viene a situarse al pie del cañón, en la Secretaría de Trabajo, al lado de ustedes”.
diferencias sociales, mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y menos pobres y mientras no haya paz en los corazones y en los espíritus .Tengan ustedes la plena seguridad de que la compañera Evita viene con más bríos que nunca a seguir siendo el puente espiritual entre los descamisados y el general Perón; viene a situarse al pie del cañón, en la Secretaría de Trabajo, al lado de ustedes”.
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Feb 20, 2011 15:35: Travelin Ann changed "Term asked" from "mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y..." to "mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y"
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Yvonne Gallagher
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Spanish term (edited):
mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y...
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whilst we still haven't managed to close the gap between rich and poor
is the most common way of saying this
or similar to your own
while we still have far too many rich (and poor) people
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the main problem is that, unlike other countries where there are a few rich people, here there are many rich people AND many poor, i.e. a huge gap or inequality between the two groups (and very few in the middle class/a very small middle class to help bridge the gap). So these are the "diferencias sociales" being referred to.
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glad to help
or similar to your own
while we still have far too many rich (and poor) people
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the main problem is that, unlike other countries where there are a few rich people, here there are many rich people AND many poor, i.e. a huge gap or inequality between the two groups (and very few in the middle class/a very small middle class to help bridge the gap). So these are the "diferencias sociales" being referred to.
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glad to help
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Andrew Bramhall
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Spanish term (edited):
mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y...
,whilst not having managed to bring about a ...
Social differences, whilst not...........
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Spanish term (edited):
mientras no se haya logrado que existan menos ricos y...
as long as there are too many rich people and too many poor people
I don't think the negative approach works in English, FWIW
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the speakers seems to want to reduce the numbers of both rich and poor!
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Don't Cry for Free, Argentina by
Traditionally, Argentina was a rare exception to the old line about Latin America: Too many poor people; too few rich people; too much army; too much church ...
www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=5030542734
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the speakers seems to want to reduce the numbers of both rich and poor!
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Don't Cry for Free, Argentina by
Traditionally, Argentina was a rare exception to the old line about Latin America: Too many poor people; too few rich people; too much army; too much church ...
www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&d=5030542734
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Andrew Bramhall
: Don't think you can translate 'mientras' here as 'as long as' (siempre que, etc)//The 'other constructs' are all more accurate than yours. You ignore 'lograr que existir' completely.
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well, I think the other constructs suggested are clumsy and unwieldy
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Edward Tully
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until there is less inequality/are less rich people
One way to turn the sentence around -you could get rid of the "rich and poor" part and just use "inequality", "until there is less inequality and there is peace..." or go for the longer "until there are less rich people and less poor people and there is peace".
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until the rich and the poor are fewer...
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