Glossary Konuyu gönderen: Yves Bourjolly
| Yves Bourjolly Amerika Birleşik Devletleri İngilizce > Fransızca + ...
I want to know whether to create one local glossary for source language and one for target language. | | | Need more info | Oct 10, 2018 |
Care to expand on that ?
What's the context, the tool, the reason(-ing)… | | | Yves Bourjolly Amerika Birleşik Devletleri İngilizce > Fransızca + ... KONUYU BAŞLATAN
In establishing a general glossary. | | | Tony M Fransa Local time: 05:34 Üye Fransızca > İngilizce + ... SİTE YERELLEŞTİRİCİ Glossary, by definition... | Oct 10, 2018 |
...implies a list of words with their corresponding meanings in another language — so it is by its very nature going to be a bilingual file!
What you have not explained is if you mean a"manual" glossary, such as might be created in Excel etc. — or if you are referring to a glossary to be created within some CAT tool, for example?
I think you probably need to explain a bit more about what you are actually asking? | |
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DZiW (X) Ukrayna İngilizce > Rusça + ... define:glossary | Oct 10, 2018 |
Yves, something like freeglossaries? If you're talking about CATs, then (1) some translators don't use file glossaries, (2) create/update a glossary from the text BEFORE (e.g. via free PlusTools) or (3) WHILE translation, or (4) use a client's [mostly poor] glossary/TM; which is the case?
Tony, it's not always about... See more Yves, something like freeglossaries? If you're talking about CATs, then (1) some translators don't use file glossaries, (2) create/update a glossary from the text BEFORE (e.g. via free PlusTools) or (3) WHILE translation, or (4) use a client's [mostly poor] glossary/TM; which is the case?
Tony, it's not always about bilingual vocabulary, sometimes it's an alphabetical list of terms or words found in or relating to a specific subject, text, or dialect, with explanations; a brief dictionary , not always translation
[Edited at 2018-10-10 18:49 GMT] ▲ Collapse | | | Samuel Murray Hollanda Local time: 05:34 Üye (2006) İngilizce > Afrikaans + ... The question is too non-specific | Oct 10, 2018 |
Yves Bourjolly wrote:
I want to know whether to create one local glossary for source language and one for target language.
What do you want to use the glossary for? Will you be creating the glossary as time goes by or in one sitting?
In some cases, a glossary should be reversible, i.e you should be able to generate a second glossary with entries in the other language by just switching the columns around and sorting it. However, in some cases it may be better for you to create the two glossaries simultaneously, and not first create the one and then convert it to the other. | | | Tony M Fransa Local time: 05:34 Üye Fransızca > İngilizce + ... SİTE YERELLEŞTİRİCİ With reference to Asker's specific query... | Oct 10, 2018 |
DZiW wrote:
Tony, it's not always about bilingual vocabulary, sometimes it's an alphabetical list of terms or words found in or relating to a specific subject, text, or dialect, with explanations; a brief dictionary, not always translation
Thank you for that rather patronizing comment — I was simply responding to asker's original question, where he specifically mentions "source language / target language", which to me seems to clearly indicate that we are in a bilingual situation here.
I am, of course, perfectly well aware of the other ways "glossary" is used in my mother tongue — but thank you for the lesson, anyway. | | | Kay Denney Fransa Local time: 05:34 Fransızca > İngilizce
Yves Bourjolly wrote:
In establishing a general glossary.
A "general" glossary would be a dictionary, wouldn't it? I have specific, bilingual glossaries, sometimes with an extra column for a definition, for each field I work in. My fashion and textiles glossary runs to about 80 pages because different clients want different terms, so there's a sub-section per client, and I have quite a few clients in this field. Any time it takes more than a cursory check to find a term, I'll stick it in there. | |
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Tony M Fransa Local time: 05:34 Üye Fransızca > İngilizce + ... SİTE YERELLEŞTİRİCİ My preference | Oct 11, 2018 |
Kay Denney wrote:
A "general" glossary would be a dictionary, wouldn't it?
I have in the past used individual customer glossaries, but there is so much valuable information that can be leveraged between them, what I now try to do is to create one big, amalgamated glossary, with sub fields for notes / definitions etc. and also to identify the customer the term "belongs" to (or the source it came from), so I can make sure I use customer-preferred terminology where that exists.
The only problem arises if a customer asks me to provide their glossary, in which case I have to do an extract of just their terms, so as to avoid breaching possible client confidentiality. Luckily, I only have one or two customers who require this! | | | Yves Bourjolly Amerika Birleşik Devletleri İngilizce > Fransızca + ... KONUYU BAŞLATAN
I thank everyone of you for your comments. I was referring to glossary to be created within a CAT tools, and I was wondering if one glossary could be automatically reversible or, should I create two glossaries for sources and targets simultaneously. I have noticed your comments in that regard. Thank you so much. | | | Samuel Murray Hollanda Local time: 05:34 Üye (2006) İngilizce > Afrikaans + ...
Yves Bourjolly wrote:
I was referring to [the] glossary to be created within a CAT tool, and I was wondering if one glossary could be automatically reversible, or, should I create two glossaries...
This really depends on which CAT tool you're using. Some CAT tools create glossaries with language codes, so you can have terms in both directions in a single glossary. Other CAT tools require you to specify the language codes, but only allow one language combination in a single glossary. Still other CAT tools don't care about the language that the glossary's source text terms are in. For such tools it's best to create one glossary for each language combination.
In general, it's best to create one glossary for each language combination. In fact, it's sometimes best to create one glossary for each subject field that you translate in, or for each client that you do translations for.
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