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Philip Lees
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Greece
Local time: 23:43
Greek to English
Acronyms Jan 8, 2011

Acronyms and abbreviations that are (presumably) well known to somebody but can take half a day to track down if you haven't seen them before.

 
Paul Stevens
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Local time: 21:43
Member (2003)
Spanish to English
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Ditto Jan 8, 2011

Philip Lees wrote:

Acronyms and abbreviations that are (presumably) well known to somebody but can take half a day to track down if you haven't seen them before.

That was exactly what sprang to my mind as well!


 
Catherine GUILLIAUMET
Catherine GUILLIAUMET  Identity Verified
Local time: 22:43
English to French
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In memoriam
Question : Jan 8, 2011

Hi,
Maybe I'm stupid, but what is :
a ltr word inside rtl text ???
And, first thing, is it "itr" (uppercase i) or "Ltr" (lowercase L) ?
As my two colleagues said, acronyms and abbreviations are the problem, indeed they are, even here
Thank you
Catherine

[Edited at 2011-01-08 09:56 GMT]


 
Igor Moshkin
Igor Moshkin
Russian Federation
Local time: 03:43
English to Russian
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Perhaps... Jan 8, 2011

Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:

Hi,
Maybe I'm stupid, but what is :
a ltr word inside rtl text ???
And, first thing, is it "itr" (uppercase i) or "Ltr" (lowercase L) ?
As my two colleagues said, acronyms and abbreviations are the problem, indeed they are, even here
Thank you
Catherine

[Edited at 2011-01-08 09:56 GMT]

I believe, these are 'left-to-right' and 'right-to-left' texts and words.


 
David Wright
David Wright  Identity Verified
Austria
Local time: 22:43
German to English
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pdf files that can't be converted Jan 8, 2011

A pain in the part of me that is in contact with the seat of my office chair!

 
Alexander Kondorsky
Alexander Kondorsky  Identity Verified
Russian Federation
Local time: 23:43
English to Russian
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Acronyms & abbreviations Jan 8, 2011

They are a real bete noire!

 
Jennifer Forbes
Jennifer Forbes  Identity Verified
Local time: 21:43
French to English
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In memoriam
Agree Jan 8, 2011

Philip Lees wrote:

Acronyms and abbreviations that are (presumably) well known to somebody but can take half a day to track down if you haven't seen them before.


Yes! Impenetrable acronyms and abbreviations are by far the most frustrating problem. I've compiled my own glossary of them over the years, but new puzzlers appear daily.
Jenny


 
Alison Sabedoria (X)
Alison Sabedoria (X)  Identity Verified
United Kingdom
French to English
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Non-equivalence of ingredients Jan 8, 2011

I agree about the acronyms - there are so many in France! Fortunately I don't encounter too many in my fields.

But for me it's flour: French flour types are not graded in the same way as British or American ones and soft and hard wheat flours just don't behave the same. Then there's French baking powder, which is nearly twice the strength of British.

I translate a lot of recipes, and have spent ages sorting out what a particular French product contains in order
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I agree about the acronyms - there are so many in France! Fortunately I don't encounter too many in my fields.

But for me it's flour: French flour types are not graded in the same way as British or American ones and soft and hard wheat flours just don't behave the same. Then there's French baking powder, which is nearly twice the strength of British.

I translate a lot of recipes, and have spent ages sorting out what a particular French product contains in order to suggest some easily-available alternative. Not believing everything I read, I sometimes end up experimenting in my own kitchen, just to be sure. Unpaid, perhaps, but generally edible.

And as for all those various bits of salted/unsalted pig...
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Cecilia Civetta
Cecilia Civetta  Identity Verified
Italy
Local time: 22:43
Member (2003)
Italian to Spanish
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Same as Catherine Jan 8, 2011

Catherine GUILLIAUMET wrote:

Hi,
Maybe I'm stupid, but what is :
a ltr word inside rtl text ???
And, first thing, is it "itr" (uppercase i) or "Ltr" (lowercase L) ?
As my two colleagues said, acronyms and abbreviations are the problem, indeed they are, even here
Thank you
Catherine

[Edited at 2011-01-08 09:56 GMT]


By the way, I don't understand "shapes" either!


 
Laurent KRAULAND (X)
Laurent KRAULAND (X)  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 22:43
French to German
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General "heavy" formatting... Jan 8, 2011

resulting in a tag salad!

 
CKSTraductions
CKSTraductions  Identity Verified
France
Local time: 22:43
Member (2010)
French to English
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images with text inside Jan 8, 2011

I really hate documents which have copied and pasted images with text in them. You have to go into them by hand and change them. It really slows you down.

And i agree PDFs that can't be converted are a real pain. I generally refuse them.


 
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida  Identity Verified
Portugal
Local time: 21:43
Member (2007)
English to Portuguese
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For me, acronyms and abbreviations Jan 8, 2011

plus bad formatting (indvertent blank spaces between words, using spaces in lieu of tabs, etc.)!

 
avsie (X)
avsie (X)  Identity Verified
Local time: 22:43
English to French
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Absolutely Jan 8, 2011

Philip Lees wrote:

Acronyms and abbreviations that are (presumably) well known to somebody but can take half a day to track down if you haven't seen them before.


This is my #1 pet peeve!


 
Paul Dixon
Paul Dixon  Identity Verified
Brazil
Local time: 17:43
Portuguese to English
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My pet peeve Jan 8, 2011

My pet peeve in translation is the presence of text boxes, which you have to proofread and format separately and which don't enter the word count either.

I don't mind large blocks of text in boxes, but sometimes I get a number like "356.2" with the "356" in one box, the "." in another, and then the "2" in a third box. Other times, sentences are divided, so I may have "The name of" in one box, "the Marketing" in another, and "Manager is John" in a third box. And this is Word, not Pow
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My pet peeve in translation is the presence of text boxes, which you have to proofread and format separately and which don't enter the word count either.

I don't mind large blocks of text in boxes, but sometimes I get a number like "356.2" with the "356" in one box, the "." in another, and then the "2" in a third box. Other times, sentences are divided, so I may have "The name of" in one box, "the Marketing" in another, and "Manager is John" in a third box. And this is Word, not Power Point! This is very time-consuming, especially as all the occurrences of "." (as a decimal point) have to be changed to "," when translating into Portuguese. Another point is that any "replace" operations do not include text in boxes.

I don't see why text boxes are used, the only reason I can think of is to make the figures neat in a table - but why "356.2" should be divided into three boxes is beyond me.
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