Feb 4, 2019 09:47
5 yrs ago
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English term
France
Quality & Reliability
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, German to French, French to German, and 4 more.
flagging
English to French
Tech/Engineering
Construction / Civil Engineering
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Because the bristles are the most likely to catch fire, due to their shape (filament) and finish (flagging of the tips), we focused more on testing them. We tried first to set on fire a section of a brush, mounted in its respective brush holder and secured to a skirt panel-like plate in an angle of 30°, with the bristles without any contaminant.
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | extrémité(s) à fleur multiple |
Daryo
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| 4 | fléchissement / affaissement |
FX Fraipont (X)
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| 2 | effilement/effilage |
katsy
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Proposed translations
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English term (edited):
flagging of the tips [painting brush bristles]
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extrémité(s) à fleur multiple
Because the bristles are the most likely to catch fire, due to their shape (filament) and finish (flagging of the tips), we focused more on testing them. We tried first to set on fire a section of a brush, mounted in its respective brush holder and secured to a skirt panel-like plate in an angle of 30°, with the bristles without any contaminant.
Les soies de porc
Elles se caractérisent par leur fermeté, leur élasticité et leur résistance.
Contrairement aux poils fins, l'extrémité d'une soie est à fleur multiple (comme une fourche) et non unique. Elle va donc bien retenir la matière pâteuse et l'étaler de manière uniforme, d'où son utilisation fréquente dans les techniques à l'huile et acrylique.
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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinceau
the connection with catching fire: that shape gives proportionally more surface in contact with the oxygen in the air and absorbs heat quicker when exposed to higher temperature.
Les soies de porc
Elles se caractérisent par leur fermeté, leur élasticité et leur résistance.
Contrairement aux poils fins, l'extrémité d'une soie est à fleur multiple (comme une fourche) et non unique. Elle va donc bien retenir la matière pâteuse et l'étaler de manière uniforme, d'où son utilisation fréquente dans les techniques à l'huile et acrylique.
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https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinceau
the connection with catching fire: that shape gives proportionally more surface in contact with the oxygen in the air and absorbs heat quicker when exposed to higher temperature.
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
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Thanks!
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GILLES MEUNIER
: ça ne veut rien dire. D'ailleurs 0 hit....soies de porc, où vous allez là....
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deeply sorry for tilting your MT ...
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katsy
: both à fleur multiple and soie de porc have a lot of (relevant) references.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "merci (ou encore extrémités fleurées)"
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fléchissement / affaissement
fléchissement / affaissement (des extrémités)
"flag
verb (used without object), flagged, flag·ging.
to fall off in vigor, energy, activity, interest, etc.: Public enthusiasm flagged when the team kept losing.
to hang loosely or limply; droop. "
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/flag?s=t
"flag
verb (used without object), flagged, flag·ging.
to fall off in vigor, energy, activity, interest, etc.: Public enthusiasm flagged when the team kept losing.
to hang loosely or limply; droop. "
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/flag?s=t
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effilement/effilage
Low confidence as this is not my field of expertise. But the definition here
https://www.castorama.fr/pinceau-plat-professionnel-toutes-p...
says the fibres and head of the brush are "effilés"
https://www.castorama.fr/pinceau-plat-professionnel-toutes-p...
says the fibres and head of the brush are "effilés"
Peer comment(s):
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Tony M
: I think that's different it just means that the head and the cluster of bristles are 'slimmed-down' for fine work or working in confined spaces, for example. / Let's face it, no-one would sell a brush that displayed this defect of 'flagging'
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you may well be right Tony. What encouraged me to post was the appearance of the head, a little splayed out (not slimmed own), as if the ends had been split. // I'm not convinced flagging is a defect, given my reference below... A voir!
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Daryo
: that's the idea, but that being done by design a term with negative connotations wouldn't fit.
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Thanks Daryo. for your comment. I agree about negative connotations, and my suggestion has none. Cf. my supporting reference above
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Reference comments
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Reference:
flagging
https://www.bobvila.com/slideshow/the-perfect-paintbrush-and...
Here is an explanation of what flagging is - bristles are split and "look fuzzy".
However I can't find an equivalent in French, otherwise I'd have posted an answer!
Here is an explanation of what flagging is - bristles are split and "look fuzzy".
However I can't find an equivalent in French, otherwise I'd have posted an answer!
Peer comments on this reference comment:
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Tony M
: Like 'split ends'? 'Effritement', perhaps? or try getting ideas from a hairdressing site :-)
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Thanks Tony :-) split ends were exactly what I thought of too!
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Reference:
What are the different type of paint brush bristles?
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Bristle Tips: Better quality brushes have bristles with flagged, or split, ends. Flagged bristles hold more paint and spread paint more smoothly. Some brushes, especially sash brushes, have tipped ends, which should not be confused with flagged ends. Tipped brushes come to a point; they're not cut flat and straight, as is a standard brush
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/home/how-to/a7647/which-pai...
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Note added at 7 hrs (2019-02-04 17:13:26 GMT)
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the physics of contact surface in proportion to the mass exposed to heat or chemicals is still the same, whatever these brushes are used for.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2019-02-04 17:38:59 GMT)
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"flagging of the tips" of brush bristles describes the shape - seems the same shape is as good for applying paint as for collecting dust.
Bristle Tips: Better quality brushes have bristles with flagged, or split, ends. Flagged bristles hold more paint and spread paint more smoothly. Some brushes, especially sash brushes, have tipped ends, which should not be confused with flagged ends. Tipped brushes come to a point; they're not cut flat and straight, as is a standard brush
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https://www.popularmechanics.com/home/how-to/a7647/which-pai...
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Note added at 7 hrs (2019-02-04 17:13:26 GMT)
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the physics of contact surface in proportion to the mass exposed to heat or chemicals is still the same, whatever these brushes are used for.
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Note added at 7 hrs (2019-02-04 17:38:59 GMT)
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"flagging of the tips" of brush bristles describes the shape - seems the same shape is as good for applying paint as for collecting dust.
Note from asker:
| notez bien que ces brosses n'ont rien à voir avec la peinture et qu'elles ne servent qu'à protéger (des poussières qui pourraient s'introduire dans la main-courant de l'escalier mécanique et gêner le bon fonctionnement à terme...) |
Discussion
Plusieurs références:
"**Fibre fleurée** signifie que l'extrémité des fibres a été séparée en 20-30 plus petits filaments (effilochement), afin de mieux attraper la poussière, les fines particules...)"
"Les **fibres fleurées** sont utilisées lorsque l’on souhaite procéder au nettoyage de surfaces très sensibles. Les **fibres fleurées** ont été conçues pour retenir le produit chimique et ainsi coupler efficacement action chimique et action mécanique. Idéale pour le nettoyage des encres sur les écrans de sérigraphie"
"Les **fibres fleurées** peuvent jouer le rôle d'éponge. Les **fibres fleurées** sont fréquemment utilisées lorsque l’on souhaite procéder à un nettoyage de surfaces très sensibles tels que les vitres, acier inox et plexis."
"Tête de loup ovale: Les fibres sont d’origine synthétique : résistantes et denses.
- La fibre est **non fleurée** : l’extrémité n’ayant pas été effilochée, l’action de la fibre est beaucoup plus forte par sa rigidité. Elle décolle la poussière tenace et la saleté résistante"
If some painting brushes use similarly shaped bristles, I can't see why the term describing the same shape - "à fleur multiple" - couldn't be used - it's still the same shape of the tip.