Nov 21, 2013 17:21
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Portuguese term
United Kingdom
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Native in: English 
Works in: Spanish to English, English, Portuguese to English
discricionaridade
Portuguese to English
Bus/Financial
International Org/Dev/Coop
procurement
in an evaluation of a Cape Verde non-profit organisation. The passage in question is a recommendation made in response to the organisation's lack of a procurement specialist:
"Dado a dimensão da X (organisation), recomenda-se o recrutamento de um especialista em aquisições, de modo a evitar discricionariedade nas compras".
is this just 'discretion'? I think of that as a positive term, yet here it is something to be avoided (I guess it is discretion in terms of making choices based on subjective factors/arbitrariness even?).
many thanks
"Dado a dimensão da X (organisation), recomenda-se o recrutamento de um especialista em aquisições, de modo a evitar discricionariedade nas compras".
is this just 'discretion'? I think of that as a positive term, yet here it is something to be avoided (I guess it is discretion in terms of making choices based on subjective factors/arbitrariness even?).
many thanks
Proposed translations
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Pablo Julián Davis
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La palabra justa/The right word
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4
Portuguese term (edited):
discricionaridade (nas compras)
Selected
arbitrary purchasing decisions/ arbitrary purchase decisions
"New Technology Assessment Process at Fairview 08/08/05
"Identification of strategy to minimize arbitrary purchasing decisions. • Identification of obsolete or potentially defective products..." https://www.premierinc.com/advisorlive/2005/.../al-mcnelly.p...
" ... horrible cheap plastic mugs that one of the CEO's sons (some other executive who could make arbitrary purchase decisions) had purchased ..." archives.somethingawful.com › ... › A ticket came in...
"Identification of strategy to minimize arbitrary purchasing decisions. • Identification of obsolete or potentially defective products..." https://www.premierinc.com/advisorlive/2005/.../al-mcnelly.p...
" ... horrible cheap plastic mugs that one of the CEO's sons (some other executive who could make arbitrary purchase decisions) had purchased ..." archives.somethingawful.com › ... › A ticket came in...
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Comment: "based on all the answers, my own thoughts, and infopedia's definition: discricionariedade
nome feminino
1. qualidade de discricionário; arbitrariedade
I think this best suits my context, thanks to all"
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Marlene Curtis
United States
United States
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Marlene Curtis
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discretionarity
Note from asker:
| I have considered this, Marlene, but haven't yet found convincing evidence that it's commonly understood in EN - many of the sites I found seemed to originate in other languages. But you may be right, I'll wait for more feedback, thanks! |
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Monica Merrill
United Kingdom
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Portuguese into English UK/US
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discretion
Suggestion
Peer comment(s):
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T o b i a s
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Marlene Curtis
: It would be "lack of discretion".
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Muriel Vasconcellos
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Each translation a gem!
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18
[reduce] discretionary purchasing
My understanding is that they want to follow a planned purchasing program and reduce purchasing on the spur of the moment - i.e., purchases that may not be essential or fit the long-term plan.
We frequently hear comments that "discretionary spending" is the first to go when an economy hits hard times. While this is usually understood to be extra stuff we don't need, at bottom it really means impulse buying - purchasing items outside our basic plan.
We frequently hear comments that "discretionary spending" is the first to go when an economy hits hard times. While this is usually understood to be extra stuff we don't need, at bottom it really means impulse buying - purchasing items outside our basic plan.
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Dr Lofthouse
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(in this context) biased
'discretionary' here seems to have negative connotations.
Reference comments
15 mins
Reference:
arbitrariness
eaves room for arbitrariness - http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-//EP//...
Eu penso que há aqui um alargamento de ideia. Discricionaridade significa liberdade de escolha, mas a ideia que me parece sobressair é que a liberdade de escolha, se não for da responsabilidade de um especialista pode redundar em escolha deficiente, portanto penso que arbitrariedade traduzirá neste caso precisamente essa ideia.
Eu penso que há aqui um alargamento de ideia. Discricionaridade significa liberdade de escolha, mas a ideia que me parece sobressair é que a liberdade de escolha, se não for da responsabilidade de um especialista pode redundar em escolha deficiente, portanto penso que arbitrariedade traduzirá neste caso precisamente essa ideia.
Note from asker:
| yes, that was my feeling - I don't want to stray too far from the source, but the idea of arbitrariness is what occurred to me. |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| agree |
Claudio Mazotti
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obrigado
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T o b i a s
: Could well be. It's hard to tell whether the writer is referring to incompetence or self-dealing.
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obrigado
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Margarida Ataide
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obrigado
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34 mins
Reference:
discretion - negative use
In practice, it is virtually impossible for regulator) agencies to avoid interpretation of their objectives and to avoid discretion. The issue then becomes how to establish governance procedures that allow for the inevitability and desirability of a non-trivial degree of bounded and accountable discretion.
Regulatory Effectiveness: The Impact of Regulation and Regulatory Governance ...
By Jon Stern, John Cubbin p. 7
There will always be 10% of discretion in each trade. Develop a trading system that has clear cut rules for entering and exiting a position and rules out most of the discretion. Discretion means using emotions. Make rules to avoid discretion. Use those rules consistently. There maybe a few losses. With a good forex trading system, you can be sure the number of winner will be greater than the losers.
http://www.totaltrader.com.au/4655/learn-to-avoid-emotions-i...
However, achieving such motivation is difficult in many circumstances
Influence costs present another reason to avoid discretion in determining pay levels
If similar jobs across the firm are paid similarly and by largely administrative decision, there is little room for politicking about pay
http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web...
A simple rule, defining the maximum size of a branch in relation to the local market should however be sufficient. In order to avoid discretion by local supervisors, such a rule should have an EU legal backing.
http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web...
14. The ORAC shall provide for an ex ante assessment of potential deterioration of the network and equipment operation and/or potential harm of the network integrity, in order to avoid discretion capable of giving rise to conflicts.
http://www.anacom.pt/render.jsp?categoryId=162784&showMetada...
Regulatory Effectiveness: The Impact of Regulation and Regulatory Governance ...
By Jon Stern, John Cubbin p. 7
There will always be 10% of discretion in each trade. Develop a trading system that has clear cut rules for entering and exiting a position and rules out most of the discretion. Discretion means using emotions. Make rules to avoid discretion. Use those rules consistently. There maybe a few losses. With a good forex trading system, you can be sure the number of winner will be greater than the losers.
http://www.totaltrader.com.au/4655/learn-to-avoid-emotions-i...
However, achieving such motivation is difficult in many circumstances
Influence costs present another reason to avoid discretion in determining pay levels
If similar jobs across the firm are paid similarly and by largely administrative decision, there is little room for politicking about pay
http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web...
A simple rule, defining the maximum size of a branch in relation to the local market should however be sufficient. In order to avoid discretion by local supervisors, such a rule should have an EU legal backing.
http://www.google.com.br/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web...
14. The ORAC shall provide for an ex ante assessment of potential deterioration of the network and equipment operation and/or potential harm of the network integrity, in order to avoid discretion capable of giving rise to conflicts.
http://www.anacom.pt/render.jsp?categoryId=162784&showMetada...
Note from asker:
| thank you Tobias - I realised as I researched that it must also be possible to use 'discretion' in a negative sense. Now I'm torn between 'discretion' and 'arbitrariness'! |
Peer comments on this reference comment:
| neutral |
Marlene Curtis
: Lack of discretion. "Discretion" is not used in a negative sense. https://www.google.com/#q=lack of discretion
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Discussion
This would fit with my answer. Here I'd suggest you say 'avoid individual discretionary actions'. The idea is to move beyond decisions and actions that are taken by individuals as the perceived need arises and start operating from the basis of a long-term plan. In other words, in your context, 'discretionary' is the opposite of planned.
http://digitalcommons.law.yale.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?artic...
"X (organisation) possui um Manual de Procedimentos Administrativos e Financeiros bastante detalhado, que além de orientar, evita a discricionariedade nas acções individuais."
http://pt.wiktionary.org/wiki/discricionariedade