May 2, 2007 11:50
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Stress state of flexible plates with a hole subject to bending.
This is the title of a scientific article. I'd like to make sure that the native-speaking reader understands it properly. Is it clear from this sentence that it is the plates, rather than the hole, that are subject to bending?
This is the title of a scientific article. I'd like to make sure that the native-speaking reader understands it properly. Is it clear from this sentence that it is the plates, rather than the hole, that are subject to bending?
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David Cahill
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It is not very clear as you say.
Perhaps if you say "...flexible plates with a hole that are subject to bending", the plural use of the verb will make it clear that you are referring to the plates.
Perhaps if you say "...flexible plates with a hole that are subject to bending", the plural use of the verb will make it clear that you are referring to the plates.
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Adam Burman
: Yes, the original reads as if the hole is subject to bending. Your version, David, makes it clear.
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Thanks, Adam
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Trudy Peters
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Thanks, Trudy
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Jack Doughty
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Thanks, Jack
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NancyLynn
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Thank you, Nancy
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RHELLER
: yes that makes sense - I gave another option as well
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thanks, rita
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Alfa Trans (X)
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thanks, marju
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Vicky Papaprodromou
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thanks, vicky
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Marie-Hélène Hayles
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no it isn't
I hope someone else will come up with a more elegant way of putting it, but as it stands the reader will assume the hole is subject to bending.
You could try "Stress state of flexible plates, with hole, subject to bending"
or "... flexible plates with hole and subject to bending".
But they're both ugly.
You could try "Stress state of flexible plates, with hole, subject to bending"
or "... flexible plates with hole and subject to bending".
But they're both ugly.
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Jim Tucker (X)
: Yes - I entered this below with just the second comma - I don't think it's inelegant: "Stress state of flexible plates with a hole, subject to bending" - I'll withdraw my answer below
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humbird
: This is good way to rectify the ambiguity in original sentence.
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Silvia Brandon-Pérez
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state of perforated flexible plates subject to bending
Grammatically the title is wrong, so of course people are going to think the hole is subject to bending, even if that makes no sense. I wonder if you could change the title to show the hole as a condition of the plates, as in perforated flexible plates... or flexible plates subject to bending and with a hole?
Note from asker:
| I'm thinking over "bent flexible plates...". "Perforated" does not work because the plates have just one hole |
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Trudy Peters
: perforated would imply more than one hole
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I realize that, that is why I added, and with a hole... I wanted to convey the idea of modifying plates in some way. Thank you!
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flexible plates with a hole OR plates with a hole that ARE subject to bending
hope that helps
Torsionally flexible couplingsFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
In contrast to other flexible couplings, the intermediate members of which are. subject to bending stress and are therefore prone to earlier wear, ...
www.ktrcorp.com/katalog/EN/KTR_018.pdf
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-02 17:01:15 GMT)
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I think it is redundant to say flexible and "subject to bending"
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-02 17:24:56 GMT)
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http://www.steelconstruction.org/static/assets/source/SDG 59...
see section 4
"effective section properties are given for sections (I add here for your purposes, with a hole) subject to compression, bending and also to combined axial compression and bending"
Torsionally flexible couplingsFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat
In contrast to other flexible couplings, the intermediate members of which are. subject to bending stress and are therefore prone to earlier wear, ...
www.ktrcorp.com/katalog/EN/KTR_018.pdf
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-02 17:01:15 GMT)
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I think it is redundant to say flexible and "subject to bending"
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Note added at 5 hrs (2007-05-02 17:24:56 GMT)
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http://www.steelconstruction.org/static/assets/source/SDG 59...
see section 4
"effective section properties are given for sections (I add here for your purposes, with a hole) subject to compression, bending and also to combined axial compression and bending"
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