Glossary entry

عربي term or phrase:

الأموال المنقولة وغير المنقولة

أنجليزي translation:

movables and immovables

Added to glossary by ahmadwadan.com
May 7, 2006 06:22
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عربي term

الأموال المنقولة وغير المنقولة

عربي إلى أنجليزي القانون/براءات الاختراع القانون عموماً
This is a deed of will in which a person bequeethes "أمواله المنقولة وغير المنقولة" to one of his relatives. I am sure you've all heard it before but is anyone familiar with it's equivalent in English? Thanks.
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Discussion

Alaa Zeineldine May 9, 2006:
Dear Jihad and all. I squashed Jihad's answer included unacceptable remarks. I also deleted some notes directed at Jihad that were too personal.
atef Sharia May 9, 2006:

In most financial statements, assets are divided into two categories current and non-current (or liquid and fixed). So you do talk about cuurent assets. http://www.btplc.com/Sharesandperformance/Glossary/Glossary....
Zeinab Asfour May 9, 2006:
Unless you believe all our references are wrong! You may as well disagree with all the dictionaries and Google search we used as references!

No one said disagreeing was not your right...But certainly not like this!
Back to Jihad: I would like you to look at the following link where you see the use of fixed and non-fixed assets used in over 9,000 cases: http://search.arabia.msn.com/results.aspx?q=Fixed and Non-Fi... Also look in particular at thi
ahmadwadan.com May 8, 2006:
I'd like to seize this opportunity of feverish "disagree" that i consider a healthy attitude in one way and call you to participate here :) http://www.proz.com/topic/46771

Proposed translations

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movables and immovables

Regards

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Ministry of Finance,ROC(1) Income from leasing and trading movables and immovables. (2) Revenues from selling publications. (3) Other income from non-insurance exclusive ...
www.dot.gov.tw/en/display/show.asp?id=1260 - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


Lawlink NSW: 8. Choice of laws issues: The person to whom the ...... but also where it consists of both movables and immovables;9 ... it is undesirable to have different rules for succession to movables and immovables, ...
www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/lrc.nsf/pages/ip21chp8 - 28k - Cached - Similar pages


bienes muebles o inmuebles - personal and real property (Spanish ...5, movables and immovables, Lorenia Rincon ... movables and immovables Diccionario de Terminos Economicos - Alcaraz Varo / Hughes ...
www.proz.com/kudoz/902836 - 31k - Cached - Similar pages


[PDF] CHAPTER 130 ENTAILED PROPERTY (DISENTAILMENT) ACTFile Format: PDF/Adobe Acrobat - View as HTML
nature on movables and immovables, created at any time, whether ... holder of such movables and immovables, subject, however, to ...
docs.justice.gov.mt/lom/legislation/ english/leg/vol_4/chapt130.pdf - Similar pages


Manitoba Law Reform CommissionThe Commission recommends that, with respect to both movables and immovables, the effect of divorce or annulment of marriage should be determined by the ...
www.gov.mb.ca/justice/mlrc/pubs/wills.html - 19k - Cached - Similar pages


Succession (conflict) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaSuch uniformity is considered more desirable than the present arrangement that often requires different laws for movables and immovables. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Succession_(conflict) - 35k - Cached - Similar pages


CC 3252General privileges on both movables and immovables. The privileges which extend alike to movables and immovables are the following:. 1. Funeral charges. ...
www.legis.state.la.us/lss_doc/ lss_house/CC%5CDoc%20110302.html - 3k - Cached - Similar pages

http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls...
Peer comment(s):

agree Zeinab Asfour : I Agree with Immovables for غير منقولة Chaiban business Dictionary Dear Ahmad ;)
26 دقائق
agree Saleh Ayyub
1 ساعة
agree Maureen Millington-Brodie
1 ساعة
agree Aisha Maniar
2 ساعات
agree Mona Ragaei
2 ساعات
agree Abdellatif Bouhid
7 ساعات
agree Eman Riesh
13 ساعات
agree Mayssa Allaf
1 يوم 3 ساعات
agree Hebat-Allah El Ashmawy
1 يوم 4 ساعات
disagree Jihad Saffouri : we can not describe money with nouns or words like moveable/movable or not we do not use these terms with money
1 يوم 11 ساعات
Dear Jihad, "Movables" and "Immovables" here are nouns (not adjectives). Please have a look at the links above and any glossary in this field. Thanks for your participation :)
agree Dikran
1 يوم 12 ساعات
agree atef Sharia : as per Canada and USA usage, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem
1 يوم 13 ساعات
agree Ahmed Ali
4 أيام
agree Sayed Moustafa talawy : agree
13 أيام
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Selected automatically based on peer agreement."
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Fixed assets and chattles

الأموال هنا كناية عن الأصول (الموجودات) وتغطي الممتلكات كافة بما في ذلك النقدي منها.
Peer comment(s):

agree Zeinab Asfour : I agree with Chattles for منقولة Chaiban Business Dictionary
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Thank you Zeinab.
disagree Jihad Saffouri : The translation gives the opposite of the arabic words I mean the word order in arabic
1 يوم 11 ساعات
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fixed and movable assets

Peer comment(s):

agree Aisha Maniar : yes, in this context
1 ساعة
disagree Jihad Saffouri : The translation gives the opposite of the arabic words I mean the word order in arabic
1 يوم 10 ساعات
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movable and immovable properties

Legal Terms:
chattles أموال منقولة
immovable properties أموال غير منقولة
movable and immovable properties الأموال المنقولة وغير المنقولة >> scores about 13,800 at Google
Peer comment(s):

disagree Jihad Saffouri : we can not describe money with nouns or words like moveable/movable or not we do not use these terms with money
1 يوم 5 ساعات
Sorry money is not described here, rather (property) which includes tangible assets (as lands, goods, money) or intangible rights (as copyrights, patents) in which or to which a person has a right protected by law. property is an umbrella term so to speak
agree Dikran : movable and immovable property
1 يوم 6 ساعات
Thanks, sir!
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Fixed and Non-Fixed Assets

This is the standard US accounting terminology, although Kudoz Glossary (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/756383) has already recorded الأموال المنقولة as Movable Assets.
See the link below and you will see the suggested terms for both used accordingly.
Peer comment(s):

disagree Jihad Saffouri : we do not use non-fixed assets
20 ساعات
Who told you that? Please, Jihad, you seem to be getting carried away by your right to diagree without real substantive reasoning. I have provided cases where it is used accordingly, if you take the troulbe and time to look at them.
agree Stephen Franke : Also: "conveyable" and "non-conveyable" in some contracts and similar legal instruments in the US.
1 يوم 18 ساعات
Thank you Stephen.
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real or personal property


Art. 10. All rights of ownership shall be safeguarded. No forced loans may be imposed, nor may any real or personal property be sequestrated, nor any prohibited article confiscated, except in conformity with law. All unpaid forced labour and general confiscation of movable or immovable property are absolutely forbidden. There shall be no expropriation of the property of any person except in the public interest, and in such circumstances and in such manner as may be prescribed by law, and on condition that just compensation be paid.

االمادة 10: حقوق التملك مصونة، فلا يجوز فرض القيود الإجبارية، ولا حجز الأموال والأملاك، ولا مصادرة المواد المصنوعة، إلا بمقتضى القانون. أما السخرة المجانية وال مصادرة العامة للأموال المنقولة وغير المنقولة، فممنوعة بتاتا. ولا ينزع ملك أحد إلا لأجل النفع العام في الأحوال وبالطريقة التي يعينها القانون، وبشرط التعويض عنه تعويضا عادلا

www.iraqiconstitution.org/files/ Evolution%20of%20the%20Iraqi%20Constitution%20Chart.doc



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"real or personal property" 1,320,000 hits in google

"real and personal property" 1.520,000 hits in google



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see this from Portuguese to english in PROZ

bens móveis e imóveis ----------- real and personal property

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/901875.


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Jurisdiction in rem (Latin, power about or against "the thing") is a legal term describing the power a court may exercise over property or status. Jurisdiction in rem describes the power a court may exercise over property (either real or personal) or a "status" against a person over whom the court does not have "in personam jurisdiction". Jurisdiction in rem assumes the property or status is the primary object of the action, rather than personal liabilities not necessarily associated with the property (quasi in rem jurisdiction).

Within the US federal court system, jurisdiction in rem typically refers to the power a federal court may exercise over large items of moveable property located within the court's territory. The most frequent circumstance in which this occurs in the Anglo-American legal system is when a suit is brought in admiralty law against a vessel to satisfy debts arising from the operation or use of the vessel.

Within the US state court system, jurisdiction in rem may refer to the power the state court may exercise over real property or personal property or a person's marital status. State courts have the power to determine legal ownership of any real or personal property within the state's boundaries.

A right in rem or a judgment in rem binds the world as opposed to rights and judgments inter partes which only bind those involved in their creation.

This law-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurisdiction_in_rem"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_rem



what is REAL? see WIKI



Real property is a legal term encompassing real estate and ownership interests in real estate (immovable property). It is a type of property differentiated from personal property. This article discusses the ownership of land using the interpretation of real property as a legal term used in Anglo-American common law jurisdictions. Other legal geopolitical systems of government have different legal interpretations concerning the ownership of land. Terminology varies in these systems, as well: for instance, heritable property in Scotland; immovable property in Canada, United States, India, Malta, Cyprus, most of Europe including Russia, also South America, Malaysia, South Africa, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and many other countries and continents; and immobilier in France.



what is personaL? SEE wiki again

Real property is a legal term encompassing real estate and ownership interests in real estate (immovable property). It is a type of property differentiated from personal property. This article discusses the ownership of land using the interpretation of real property as a legal term used in Anglo-American common law jurisdictions. Other legal geopolitical systems of government have different legal interpretations concerning the ownership of land. Terminology varies in these systems, as well: for instance, heritable property in Scotland; immovable property in Canada, United States, India, Malta, Cyprus, most of Europe including Russia, also South America, Malaysia, South Africa, Pakistan, Bangladesh, and many other countries and continents; and immobilier in France.



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Personal property is a type of property. In the common law systems personal property may also be called chattels. It is distinguished from real property, or real estate. In the civil law systems personal property is often called movable property or movables - any property that can be moved from one location or another. This term is in distinction with immovable property or immovables, such as land and buildings.



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Peer comment(s):

disagree Jihad Saffouri : personal property could be both, and do not depend on search engines
1 يوم 11 ساعات
Thanks, The issue is what is being used and agreed on. Just look in google 2.840.000 HITS. Translation is not only know language , but Culture, Search engine is telling culture. LOOK IN WIKI
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1 يوم 12 ساعات

liquid and fixed assets / quick & fixed assets



liquid_assets
noun
1 liquid assets, quick assets

assets in the form of cash (or easily convertible into cash)
Category Tree:
possession
╚assets
╚liquid assets, quick assets



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DEAR ARABIC - ENGLISH TRANSLATORS OR FREELANCERS,
DO NOT DEPEND ON OR ACCEPT INFORMATION GIVEN BY SEARCH ENGINES WITHOUT THINKING OF THE CONTEXT.

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SOME OF PROZ MEMBERS GET USED TO HAVE AGREEMENTS FOR THEIR TRANSLATIONS OR EXPLANATIONS .

I HAVE BEEN A MEMBER OF PROZ FOR SOME TIME BUT I HAVE BEEN DOING SOME WORK, SO I AM HERE :
1- TO DISCUSS WITH ANY MEMBER EVERY CORRECTION I MADE 2- TO RAISE ANY DISAGREEMENT I LIKE AS IT IS MY NATURAL RIGHT. 3- A MASTER OF ENGLISH ARABIC AND ARABIC ENGLISH TRANSLATION CAME HERE TO PROZ TO PUT YOU ON THE RIGHT WAY OF TRANSLATION. 4- AND MAKE YOU NOT FLY AWAY OF YOUR IMAGINATIONS
5- ALSO TO TELL YOU TO ACCEPT BOTH DISAGREEMETAGREEMET AND

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STILL MOST OF FREELANCERS AND TRANSLATORS IN PROZ ATTACKING ME BECAUSE I RAISED THE FLAG OF DISAGREEMENT.
STILL THEY DO NOT KNOW THEY ARE FACING A WHALE IN THE WORLD OF FREELANCERS.SO DO NOT SAY DISAGREE AND DEPEND ON SEARCH ENGINES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR DISAGREEMENT.BUT REMMEMBER WHEN TO USE THAT RIGHT AND WHY YOU ARE USING IT?IT'S GREAT PLEASURE FOR ME TO BE HERE AND TO TEACH YOU ( DISAGREE ).

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Dear Zeinab Asfour,

I did not say that search engines are wrong. Just read my comments.I said that some people go and have a site for them on www and then when freelancers or translators go and find information or data they take it without filtering . As I said they have to filter them.
Peer comment(s):

disagree atef Sharia : In most financial statements, assets are divided into two categories current and non-current (or liquid and fixed). see the link please, www.btplc.com/Sharesandperformance/Glossary/Glossary.htm
30 دقائق
I DID NOT TALK ABOUT CURRENT ASSETS
disagree Hassan Al-Haifi (wordforword) : I think quick here is out of tune with the term and cdertainly does not offer a better alternative to the other suggeswtions! I was hoping that we are dealing here with a comprehending professional translator!
18 ساعات
WHAT'S THE RELATION BETWEEN TUNE AND TRANSLATION?
neutral Nesrin : Dear Jihad - Why do you feel you need to disagree with everyanswer to promote your own? But if you really have to, the least you can do is to check your claims before making them. E.g "movables" is a VERY common noun, as confirmed by the dictionary!
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