Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
les décisionnaires
English translation:
not for grading -Senegal reference
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Adjoa des Bordes
Nov 15, 2005 01:10
18 yrs ago
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French term
les décisionnaires
French to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
governance
Document is on the country Gabon, deals with recruitment in the public service with three categories of staff the "fonctionnaires", "contractuels" and "decisionnaires", who are last on the scale and whose job situation is not secure. May be local parlance?
Proposed translations
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3 +4 | not for grading -Senegal reference | RHELLER |
5 | The "Deciding Committee" -->Those empowered to take/make decisions. | DFBEN |
5 -1 | decision makers | Anna Maria Augustine (X) |
3 | laborers | mireille aboumrad |
Change log
Nov 15, 2005 04:55: JCEC changed "Term asked" from "\"les decisionnaires\"" to "les d�cisionnaires"
Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
"les decisionnaires"
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not for grading -Senegal reference
5.2 Enseignants décisionnaires
Les décisionnaires sont titulaires de diplômes professionnels mais, frappés par la limite d'âge (35 ans révolus), ne peuvent pas satisfaire aux conditions de titularisation dans la fonction publique.
A titre dérogatoire, les agents remplissant certaines conditions (nombre d'enfants, ') peuvent bénéficier d'un recul de la limite d'âge jusqu'à 40 ans (Loi n°2002-08 du 22 février 2002).
http://www.education.gouv.sn/personnels/recrutement.html
Les décisionnaires sont titulaires de diplômes professionnels mais, frappés par la limite d'âge (35 ans révolus), ne peuvent pas satisfaire aux conditions de titularisation dans la fonction publique.
A titre dérogatoire, les agents remplissant certaines conditions (nombre d'enfants, ') peuvent bénéficier d'un recul de la limite d'âge jusqu'à 40 ans (Loi n°2002-08 du 22 février 2002).
http://www.education.gouv.sn/personnels/recrutement.html
Peer comment(s):
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David Goward
: I think you've hit the nail on the head. Err, why NFG?
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thanks David, but I really don't know what to call them
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Jocelyne S
: Yes, this looks most likely...Perhaps some sort of "junior" civil servant (but hard to convey the age limit side of things)
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good idea JS :-) I'm sure "junior" helps the asker
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Carlos Segura
: Would "interim" convey some of the meaning?
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thanks Carlos! one must be very careful with these terms; each country probably has its own complex designation for titles (one of the reasons why I didn't dare just pick one:-)
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DFBEN
: Thanks Rita . I have learned a new meaning for this word and in that context it is definitely a neologism. Merci.
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Senegal may have their own local terminology; look at the difference between NY and Montreal :-)
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks, this is the answer and reference that most explained what I needed to know. Should be graded I believe."
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decision makers
But I am certain this is local speak given the context as we would have this term in management, I would think. In any case "fonctionnaires" in France are usually not there or asleep or on holiday, or at lunch or at the doctor's but certainly rarely at work and you can never get hold of one. Unfortunately 75% of the population are civil servants.
Maybe it is not a stable life long job in Gabon.
Maybe it is not a stable life long job in Gabon.
Peer comment(s):
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mireille aboumrad
: but how can somebody who is a decision maker have a job that is not secure or be the last on the scale?
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how should I know what they do in Gabon and how would you know either?
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David Goward
: extremely unlikely in this context, I feel, where "décisionnaires" are bottom of a 3-tier system.
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36 mins
French term (edited):
les decisionnaires
laborers
it might be local parlance totalk about the laborers who have to do the work that the contractors will give them
Peer comment(s):
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Anna Maria Augustine (X)
: hardly !
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hence my confidence level, i didn't use a 5
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1 day 1 hr
French term (edited):
les d�cisionnaires
The "Deciding Committee" -->Those empowered to take/make decisions.
More than likely political and traditionnal authorities making decisions on a joint project. Their decisions probably supersede those of the civil servants because they have political or traditional clout.
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