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Susana Galilea
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actually, it's based on a quota system Sep 11, 2006

Gillian Noameshie wrote:
I think you will find that you can't do the lottery if you are an EU citizen.


What is the Diversity Visa (Green Card) Lottery Program?
Each year, 50,000 immigrant visas are made available through a lottery to people who come from countries with low rates of immigration to the United States. None of these visas are available for people who come from countries that have sent more than 50,000 immigrants to the United States in the past five years.
http://www.usagcls.com/About.asp

You must be native of a country with a low immigration rate to the U.S.A. to qualify for the Green Card Lottery. People born in countries with high U.S. immigration are excluded from this lottery. Please see the list below of countries whose natives are currently excluded from the Green Card Lottery. Please note that eligibility is determined only by the country of birth, not based on country of citizenship or current residence. This is the most common misperception.

The following countries are excluded from the lottery program:

China (mainland only)
Russia
Vietnam
South Korea
Philippines
Pakistan
India
Mexico
Jamaica
United Kingdom (except N.Ireland)
Canada
Dominican Republic
Colombia
Haiti
El Salvador
Poland
Natives from all other countries may register. If you were born in one of the non-qualifying countries you can still participate based on the country of birth of your parents.
http://www.usagcls.com/Req.asp


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Samuel Murray
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Green Card Lottery Sep 12, 2006

Susana Galilea wrote:
I had entirely forgotten about the green card lottery, I suppose because I never heard of anyone ever winning it!


FWIW, I know of two people who have won it.


 
Susana Galilea
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lottery Sep 12, 2006

Samuel Murray wrote:
Susana Galilea wrote:
I had entirely forgotten about the green card lottery, I suppose because I never heard of anyone ever winning it!

FWIW, I know of two people who have won it.


Truly I took it for granted the odds were dismal, I stand corrected

Susana


 
Susana Galilea
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Not sure whether this is relevant in your case, but... Sep 13, 2006

If you are indeed considering obtaining your green card via marriage with a U.S. citizen, there are some minimum income guidelines your would-be sponsor has to meet. I believe they are determined by the Dept. of Health and Human Services, or some other federal agency. Usually, the application packet issued by Immigration will contain this information.

Susana

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Thor Truelson
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I am aware, but... Sep 14, 2006

Rosa Maria Duenas Rios wrote:

Thor might find interesting the following link on the growth of Hispanic population in the states of Minnesota, and Michigan and the Midwest:

www.state.mn.us/ebranch/ssac/pdfs/brief.pdf
www.jsri.msu.edu/RandS/nexo/W97/nexo.pdf



Hi Rosa. I live in Minneapolis, and besides Nordic translation, I am also a Spanish interpreter, although I am sort of moving away from that now. In my comments, I was talking about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, you know. Not the "Mitten". I am fully aware of the state of things in Minneapolis, as well as out state Minnesota, and while it's been a few years since I've been to Northern Michigan (the UP), I don't recall seeing anyone either speaking Spanish, nor appearing to be of Latin descent (I was there for two months). The area is somewhat economically depressed without a lot of development, and it's pretty remote. There isn't much industry (construction and agriculture) which many immigrants generally work in. I am sure there is some Mexican culture to be found in Marquette and Houghton, but my impression is that it's pretty modest. Duluth doesn't have much of a Mexican population (for many of the same reasons), and that's only 2 hours away. Marquette is equally 6-7 hours from Minneapolis, Detroit and Chicago. If I were a guy who came up from Mexico and was looking for a place to work and live, Marquette, Michigan would quite possibly be the very last place I would choose to go. Maybe someone on here lives up there and can say otherwise. In over twenty years of speaking Spanish, I have never heard the words "Marquette, Michigan" uttered once in any sort of conversation whatsoever. And doing community interpreting you see a lot of different people and they all have stories to share, and if it would have been some sort of destination for immigrant workers, I am sure it would have come up since this is one of the biggest cities in the neighborhood of the UP. This is all my impression, from a person who lives close by and has had close contact for many years with the Mexican community in the Twin Cities.

Thor


 
Rosa Maria Duenas Rios (X)
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What I know... Sep 14, 2006

Hi Thor,

First of all, let me make it clear it is not my intention to start an argument (I feel I have to say this as I have been burned in other forums).

You certainly live up there, and I am thousands of miles away, but what I knew about the UP is that their main economic activities are agriculture and cattle raising. Wherever you have these activities in the US, you have Mexicans (mostly working in the fields, dairy farms, and meat rendering/packing plants). The co
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Hi Thor,

First of all, let me make it clear it is not my intention to start an argument (I feel I have to say this as I have been burned in other forums).

You certainly live up there, and I am thousands of miles away, but what I knew about the UP is that their main economic activities are agriculture and cattle raising. Wherever you have these activities in the US, you have Mexicans (mostly working in the fields, dairy farms, and meat rendering/packing plants). The community might not be a large one, or they might just be keeping a low profile, in an attempt to keep their jobs, but I am sure there will be more and more demand of Spanish language services as time goes by. In other words, I do not think it would be impossible for a native Spanish speaker to make his/her living by providing language services up there. That is all!

I found another interesting link: www.maes.msu.edu/upes/newsletters/December2004.pdf
It is an agricultural newsletter (not based in Marquette, but still in UP); please see the add at the bottom of page 3, where they offer Spanish classes "to better communicate with your Mexican workers", and to learn some Mexican culture...
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Viktoria Gimbe
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I mentioned this earlier... Sep 22, 2006

...and now I have an example.

OK, it's specifically for Canadian French translators, but there are such offers for other languages from time to time.

Please do look at this job post: http://www.proz.com/translation-jobs/129872. As you can see, there ARE companies hiring people they just can't find in their area. In the post, it's not mentioned whether the company off
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...and now I have an example.

OK, it's specifically for Canadian French translators, but there are such offers for other languages from time to time.

Please do look at this job post: http://www.proz.com/translation-jobs/129872. As you can see, there ARE companies hiring people they just can't find in their area. In the post, it's not mentioned whether the company offers any kind of help for moving to California, but if they really need someone to fill the position, they will be ready to walk the extra mile.

Just wanted to show you that some translation related businesses in the States do hire from foreign countries - and if you search, you may find such companies who may need your services.

Good luck!
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Herminia Herrándiz Espuny
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Ty Victoria Sep 22, 2006

Yes, there are a lot of companies hiring foreign translators, but the problem is that they also ask for you to be in possession of the work permit for USA

I'll keep searching, though


 
Viktoria Gimbe
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But you would have a credible reason to get the permit Sep 22, 2006

If you're already in touch with a company looking to hire you and they can attest that they need you because they can't seem to find qualified people within the US, then it should be that much easier to get the permit. You would then fall into the category of a person absolutely needed by the employer where you would absolutely not take work away from US citizens - and thereby, you would be actually contributing to their economy, by generating revenue for the US employer because thanks to you, t... See more
If you're already in touch with a company looking to hire you and they can attest that they need you because they can't seem to find qualified people within the US, then it should be that much easier to get the permit. You would then fall into the category of a person absolutely needed by the employer where you would absolutely not take work away from US citizens - and thereby, you would be actually contributing to their economy, by generating revenue for the US employer because thanks to you, they can accept more work form their clients. You would then be a desirable immigrant. Maybe this is all it takes to get the work permit.

I am not sure what the procedure with the US government would be in such a case, but it may be worth it for you to try to find out. Maybe this alone (a job you are fit for that's impossible to fill inside the US within a reasonable timeframe) is already a ticket to the US for you - you never know until you try...



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Herminia Herrándiz Espuny
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Already tried twice... Sep 22, 2006

Unfortunately, I've already tried that procedure twice, lastime one week ago. Both companies wanted to hire me eventhough I do not have the work permit, but once they investigated the process and the time it would take for me to get the work permit they told me that they were sorry, but couldn't afford that much time and efforts in order to hire me or any other foreigner without work permit, that they would start looking for someone who was Spanish but who had already the work permit.

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Unfortunately, I've already tried that procedure twice, lastime one week ago. Both companies wanted to hire me eventhough I do not have the work permit, but once they investigated the process and the time it would take for me to get the work permit they told me that they were sorry, but couldn't afford that much time and efforts in order to hire me or any other foreigner without work permit, that they would start looking for someone who was Spanish but who had already the work permit.

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Viktoria Gimbe
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What a shame Sep 24, 2006

Sorry to read... It's like they are asking you to read out of tea leaves that at some point in time, a US employer will need your indispensable services that nobody on US soil is able to offer - and then prove to them that this will actually occur. It seems like they just don't want any foreigners to enter. But then, why DO they have this option if it's an impossible one? Might as well not offer this possibility anymore...

May I ask how long it can take to complete the procedure? Al
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Sorry to read... It's like they are asking you to read out of tea leaves that at some point in time, a US employer will need your indispensable services that nobody on US soil is able to offer - and then prove to them that this will actually occur. It seems like they just don't want any foreigners to enter. But then, why DO they have this option if it's an impossible one? Might as well not offer this possibility anymore...

May I ask how long it can take to complete the procedure? Also, what do they require? I am far from planning to live in the US (I live in Canada and, even if some will say shame on me, I'd rather live somewhere else and that somewhere else is definitely not going to be the States) but I would like to know just for the record.

I live in Canada and since 9-11, all Canadian residents who are not citizens need to get a permanent resident card, or else they can't come back to Canada if they leave on vacation. Guess how long it takes to get the document... 4 months! And it's not something tricky - the card replaces a form all residents already have in their possession, so no investigation is needed. I understand that they have a very complex procedure to produce the card and that they do need some time - but four months? I am convinced they would be able to do it within 6 weeks if they made the effort...

Maybe you should try the lottery after all... It's called a lottery, but it starts to seem like it actually would work better than other things... What a weird, upside down world we live in!
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Jessu
Jessu
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Any ideas? Sep 28, 2006

bohy wrote:

Work visa is not an option. The earliest you can get now is... October 2007, and your employer has to prove that no American resident can fill the opening. It's a lot of difficulties for the employer, so most of them don't go for it... unless they know you already. What used to work a few years ago is now completely out of reach, because the total number of visas has been divided by 3.
I have tried an E2 (investor) visa, but actually it's not very well fitted to this kind of work... you have to bring a lot of money and/or create a lot of jobs... Although I was highly specialized in IT, I've been turned down in a really nasty way.
The green card lottery is an option for freelancers, but it's a lengthy process (you have to be out of the States during this period).
Probably you should consult an immigration attorney in the States.


Hi bohy. Actually, i am new to this forum, and all of this is very eye-opening. Any advice that you (or someone out there) can give me is really appreciated. My boyfriend,who is french, is thinking about doing translations as well. We talked about him opening his own "translating business" but i suppose that he would need the E2 visa? Have you thought about doing english translations for a french company from within the US? That way he could just come on a tourist visa....I am trying to get creative but i am running out of ideas. Should we go to an attorney? Do you or anyone else have any ideas for someone like him without us getting married straight away?
Thanks Jessica


 
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