paesaggio istoriato

English translation: historical landscape (with historical figures decorated landscape)

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Italian term or phrase:paesaggio istoriato
English translation:historical landscape (with historical figures decorated landscape)
Entered by: Francesca Casanova

12:10 Oct 6, 2022
Italian to English translations [PRO]
Art/Literary - Art, Arts & Crafts, Painting / Descrizione titoli
Italian term or phrase: paesaggio istoriato
....il paesaggio “ideale” o “istoriato”, che seguiva il modello di grandi maestri francesi come Claude Lorrain e Nicholas Poussin.


Ho cercato e sono venuta alla conclusione che dovrebbe essere "historic landscape", nel senso che rappresenta paesaggi in cui ci sono elementi storici come rovine,personaggi etc.
Naturalmente non ne sono sicura. Cosa ne dite? Grazie
Francesca Casanova
Italy
Local time: 21:22
historical landscape (with historical figures decorated landscape)
Explanation:
paesaggio istoriato = historical landscape tradition, (with historical figures decorated landscape)

Claude Lorrain (1604/5?–1682) | Essay
Claude Lorrain arrived in Italy an ill-educated foreign village boy who, ... Germany · Greek and Roman Mythology · Historical Landscape · History Painting ...
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/clau/hd_clau.htm

Claude Lorrain Paintings, Bio, Ideas - The Art Story
Summary of Claude Lorrain
Claude Lorrain made paintings in which the sun, earth, and water seem to reverberate with emotion. His name is inseparable from seventeenth-century landscape painting, his works characterized by a Baroque classicism which is especially evident in his depiction of antique architecture, and his emphasis on dramatic contrasts of light and shade. More often than not, Claude's works were paeans to the beauty of nature rather than portrayals of grand human virtues - as was more common for painters of his style and generation - but they were nonetheless generally representations of historical or mythical scenes. At a time when landscape painting was still far from being considered a significant genre, he thus laid the foundations for the historical landscape tradition that would come to dominate French and English painting for at least 150 years.
https://www.theartstory.org/artist/lorrain-claude/

French Natural Selections - Dahesh Museum of Art
http://www.daheshmuseum.org › fr...
After the historical landscape tradition, Naturalism emerged as a major trend in the 1830s. Influenced by the work of earlier Dutch and Flemish landscape ...

istoriare
(ant. storiare) v. tr. [der. di istoria, variante ant. o letter. di storia, nel senso di «figurazione di un fatto»] (io istòrio, ecc.).
Adornare una superficie con la raffigurazione (in pittura, scultura, ecc.) di immagini relative a fatti storici o sacri o leggendarî: i. una parete; Quiv’era storïata [nel marmo, in rilievo] l’alta gloria Del roman principato (Dante). Non com., illustrare un libro a stampa. ◆ Part. pass. istoriato (ant. storiato), anche come agg.: porte istoriate, di una chiesa, di un battistero; capitello istoriato di motivi biblici; vasi istoriati con episodi del ciclo troiano.
https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/istoriare/

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some examples with the literal translation "historiated landscape" / “historiated landscape” painting
not sure if it may be more appropriated and/or easly to understand,
anyway, not many records online

Firstly, the milieu in which the material object of regulation is secured is a “mingled place”, to quotes Serres (2008, p. 307) again, “a moiré and precisely historiated landscape
https://oro.open.ac.uk/32913/1/Object_of_regulation_revised....

Portrait of Massimo d'Azeglio | Pinacoteca di Brera
D'Azeglio invented a genre known as “historiated landscape” painting with landscapes studied from life used as settings for episodes from history.
https://pinacotecabrera.org/en/collezione-online/opere/ritra...

The grand tour in the Colli Albani from the beginning to the eraly Twentieth Century
... The cultural views were diversified, with the coexistence of a romantic and sentimental concept of the landscape, with the neoclassical paysage historique of the French Academy, the variant of the Italian “historiated landscape”, the purism of the Nazarenes, but above all the adherence to the realism without hierarchy of subject, that is the objectivity applied to visual perception, promoted by English, French and then American painters. It was precisely this exchange of different ideas and visions that resulted in ever-changing critical contributions and profitable inputs for common growth.
... One of the first views of the area by an American artist is a historiated landscape by Robert Walter Weir (1803-1889), who stayed in Rome from 1825 to 1827, depicting The Duke of Bourbon’s Halt at La Riccia, on His March to the Assau Rome , May 3d, 1527, painted in New York in 1834 based on sketches or previous drawings, with an idealized but fairly faithful view of the village of Ariccia at sunset (Los Angeles County Museum of Art).
https://www.interlineagroup.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/0...
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Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
Austria
Local time: 21:22
Grading comment
Perfect! Thanks :)
Francesca
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3 +2historical landscape (with historical figures decorated landscape)
Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
4Landscape where every picture tells a story
Andrew Bramhall
Summary of reference entries provided
JudyC
We've had this before
philgoddard
just for info
tradu-grace

  

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historical landscape (with historical figures decorated landscape)


Explanation:
paesaggio istoriato = historical landscape tradition, (with historical figures decorated landscape)

Claude Lorrain (1604/5?–1682) | Essay
Claude Lorrain arrived in Italy an ill-educated foreign village boy who, ... Germany · Greek and Roman Mythology · Historical Landscape · History Painting ...
https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/clau/hd_clau.htm

Claude Lorrain Paintings, Bio, Ideas - The Art Story
Summary of Claude Lorrain
Claude Lorrain made paintings in which the sun, earth, and water seem to reverberate with emotion. His name is inseparable from seventeenth-century landscape painting, his works characterized by a Baroque classicism which is especially evident in his depiction of antique architecture, and his emphasis on dramatic contrasts of light and shade. More often than not, Claude's works were paeans to the beauty of nature rather than portrayals of grand human virtues - as was more common for painters of his style and generation - but they were nonetheless generally representations of historical or mythical scenes. At a time when landscape painting was still far from being considered a significant genre, he thus laid the foundations for the historical landscape tradition that would come to dominate French and English painting for at least 150 years.
https://www.theartstory.org/artist/lorrain-claude/

French Natural Selections - Dahesh Museum of Art
http://www.daheshmuseum.org › fr...
After the historical landscape tradition, Naturalism emerged as a major trend in the 1830s. Influenced by the work of earlier Dutch and Flemish landscape ...

istoriare
(ant. storiare) v. tr. [der. di istoria, variante ant. o letter. di storia, nel senso di «figurazione di un fatto»] (io istòrio, ecc.).
Adornare una superficie con la raffigurazione (in pittura, scultura, ecc.) di immagini relative a fatti storici o sacri o leggendarî: i. una parete; Quiv’era storïata [nel marmo, in rilievo] l’alta gloria Del roman principato (Dante). Non com., illustrare un libro a stampa. ◆ Part. pass. istoriato (ant. storiato), anche come agg.: porte istoriate, di una chiesa, di un battistero; capitello istoriato di motivi biblici; vasi istoriati con episodi del ciclo troiano.
https://www.treccani.it/vocabolario/istoriare/

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Note added at 1 hr (2022-10-06 13:18:39 GMT)
--------------------------------------------------

some examples with the literal translation "historiated landscape" / “historiated landscape” painting
not sure if it may be more appropriated and/or easly to understand,
anyway, not many records online

Firstly, the milieu in which the material object of regulation is secured is a “mingled place”, to quotes Serres (2008, p. 307) again, “a moiré and precisely historiated landscape
https://oro.open.ac.uk/32913/1/Object_of_regulation_revised....

Portrait of Massimo d'Azeglio | Pinacoteca di Brera
D'Azeglio invented a genre known as “historiated landscape” painting with landscapes studied from life used as settings for episodes from history.
https://pinacotecabrera.org/en/collezione-online/opere/ritra...

The grand tour in the Colli Albani from the beginning to the eraly Twentieth Century
... The cultural views were diversified, with the coexistence of a romantic and sentimental concept of the landscape, with the neoclassical paysage historique of the French Academy, the variant of the Italian “historiated landscape”, the purism of the Nazarenes, but above all the adherence to the realism without hierarchy of subject, that is the objectivity applied to visual perception, promoted by English, French and then American painters. It was precisely this exchange of different ideas and visions that resulted in ever-changing critical contributions and profitable inputs for common growth.
... One of the first views of the area by an American artist is a historiated landscape by Robert Walter Weir (1803-1889), who stayed in Rome from 1825 to 1827, depicting The Duke of Bourbon’s Halt at La Riccia, on His March to the Assau Rome , May 3d, 1527, painted in New York in 1834 based on sketches or previous drawings, with an idealized but fairly faithful view of the village of Ariccia at sunset (Los Angeles County Museum of Art).
https://www.interlineagroup.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2019/0...

Cristina Bufi Poecksteiner, M.A.
Austria
Local time: 21:22
Native speaker of: Italian
PRO pts in category: 12
Grading comment
Perfect! Thanks :)
Francesca

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  FPC
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agree  Cillie Swart: seems plausible
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Landscape where every picture tells a story


Explanation:
Agree with Phil's comments and those of the previous question he cites; 'historiated' is a strange word in both languages, so I would paraphrase it as above; it could well be a viable option. At least it covers the sense of the original in my opinion.

Andrew Bramhall
United Kingdom
Local time: 20:22
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Emmanuella: Not a story but historical subject. May be sthg like ' historical narrative'
1 hr
  -> How about a story about historical subjects?
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Reference

Reference information:
Nere they're described as "ideale or heroic"

https://www.ebay.com/p/112233

JudyC
Italy
Works in field
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish, Native in ItalianItalian

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agree  Michael Chirichigno: Yes, but perhaps "historical landscape" would be more appropriate.
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31 mins
Reference: We've had this before

Reference information:
http://www.proz.com/kudoz/italian-to-english/art-arts-crafts...

Though I think you might paraphrase it, as people may not be familiar with the Italian word.

philgoddard
United States
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Reference: just for info

Reference information:
https://research-repository.griffith.edu.au/bitstream/handle...
Landscape painting became respectable as “a historiated genre in the work of
painters such as Nicolas Poussin, and Claude Lorrain
—that is, a sort of compromise between landscape and history painting, the most esteemed of the classical genres.”4 This doctoral investigation initially framed a series of historical references to establish that landscape painting in Western art history spans broad observations and genres used as instruments to represent experiences and narratives in the landscape. Painted landscapes are engaged to describe the memories and events from the time and place in which paintings are produced.5

tradu-grace
Italy
Native speaker of: Native in ItalianItalian, Native in FrenchFrench
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