renunciar

English translation: relinquish / give up

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Spanish term or phrase:	renunciar
English translation:	relinquish / give up
Entered by:	peter jackson

07:31 May 13, 2017

Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Social Sciences - Psychology

Spanish term or phrase: renunciar

I am finding it difficult to think of the best word here. I have tried "discard", "abandon" and "reject" but none convinces.

Although it only appears once in the actual article, it unfortunately appears in the title. The article is on children's understanding of counting rules and conformity to unanimous and non-unanimous endorsement of unconventional counts.

hemos creado una situación en la que los juicios erróneos de niños de 5 a 9 años sobre las reglas convencionales del conteo entran en conflicto con las claims correctas de a qualified majority, unánime o no. Nuestro planteamiento se halla próximo al paradigma de estudios sobre conformity, entendida como la tendencia a ***renunciar*** al propio conocimiento or judgment to conform al de la mayoría

The author uses "renounce" but this doesn't convince me. The title is her translation but I don't have the full title in Spanish:

Renouncing wrong knowledge: Does majority’s correct testimony influence children’s wrong judgments of counting pseudoerrors? (Renunciando al conocimiento erróneo: ….)

peter jackson KudoZ activity Questions: 361 (9 open) (1 without valid answers) (24 closed without grading) Answers: 118 Spain
Local time: 13:51

relinquish / give up

Explanation:
I also think your "discard" would work. And as an aside, I would politely ask the author the provide a text in her best Spanish, and not try to "contribute" to the English translation :)

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Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:51

Grading comment

Thanks, Simon.
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Summary of answers provided

4 +4

relinquish / give up

Simon Bruni

release/let go of

Muriel Vasconcellos

reject/surrender

neilmac

3 +1

disregard / suppress

Robert Forstag

Discussion entries: 8

Simon Bruni

United Kingdom

17:40 May 13, 2017

Sometimes academics do this to be helpful, without realising that it actually hinders the translation process.

peter jackson

Spain

ASKER

@Phil

15:30 May 13, 2017

My source text has certain words and sentences already in English. I find many Spanish academics pepper their original manuscripts with words and phrases in English based on the literature in their field. Sometimes it's a pain and other times it can be helpful. I am also surprised by the use of certain words - in this context it does in fact seem that "claims" is the usual word used when discussing children's willingness to believe others' testimony.

philgoddard

United States

Can someone satisfy my curiosity?

15:10 May 13, 2017

Why do some texts posted here come with random words translated? I find them difficult to read, not least because the translations are sometimes debatable (eg "claims").
Is it something to do with TM? If so, why does it translate only certain words, and not all of them?

peter jackson

Spain

ASKER

10:31 May 13, 2017

The article deals with epsitemic authority and children's willingness to abandon/reject/relinquish/discard endorse pseudoerrors after listening to testimonies from unanimous and non-unanimous majorities of teachers. Gripping stuff! I have a feeling I will be making my mind up on this one minute before sending it off.

Charles Davis

Spain

I wouldn't use "renounce"

10:13 May 13, 2017

In modern English it's not used in the same way as "renunciar". "Renunciar" simply means giving something up voluntarily, but "renounce" implies formally distancing yourself from something. You might say that one is simply changing your mind and the other is resolving never to do it again.

Simon Bruni

United Kingdom

erroneous beliefs / wrong judgements

10:12 May 13, 2017

I wonder if this refers to what psychologists call "cognitive distortions" or "thinking errors": when your judgements don't reflect reality.

peter jackson

Spain

ASKER

@Neil

09:58 May 13, 2017

I agree, to a certain extent, as they say. I was sure I had translated an article with a similar use of "renunciar" and have just found it. I used "abandon" but am now not sure although "abandon erroneous beliefs" gets a few hits ...

neilmac

Spain

My 2 cents

09:45 May 13, 2017

I think "renounce" could work in the sentence ("understood as the tendency to renounce one's own judgement"), but for some reason I don't like it at all for the header.

Answers

17 mins confidence:

peer agreement (net): +4

relinquish / give up

Simon Bruni
United Kingdom
Local time: 12:51
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 24

Grading comment

Thanks, Simon.

1 hr confidence:

release/let go of

Explanation:
Another way to say it. Used a lot in self-help seminars.

Examples of 'release judgment':

www.thewaytobalance.com/events.cfm?WhatID=380Medical Intuitive Remote Healing: **Release Judgment of Yourself and Others**, with Sue & Aaron Singleton. Description: Although it is not required, you will obtain ...

https://www.aleyadao.com/catalog/products/Individual.../Rele...
**Release Judgment and Move into Acceptance** This meditation focuses on releasing judgment and moving into acceptance. The protocols in the meditation are ...

Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
Local time: 04:51
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 99

52 mins confidence:

reject/surrender

Explanation:
My Internet is sluggish today, but these are 2 options that might work. " Reject the judgement" gets over half 1 million units on Google, albeit mostly in legal contexts.
"Surrender" one's own judgement in favour of the majority conclusion could be another option.

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Note added at 2 hrs (2017-05-13 09:47:46 GMT)
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How about "abnegate"? Or even better "eschew"?
= To renounce or reject (something desired or valuable).
"he attempts to abnegate personal responsibility"
synonyms: renounce, reject, refuse, abandon, spurn, abdicate, give up, relinquish, abjure, repudiate, forswear, disavow, cast aside, drop, turn one's back on, wash one's hands of, eschew; forsake
"he cannot abnegate the responsibility which the choice confers on him"

neilmac
Spain
Local time: 13:51
Native speaker of:

English
PRO pts in category: 26

6 hrs confidence:

peer agreement (net): +1

disregard / suppress

Explanation:
Simon's suggestion of "relinquish" seems valid, but I think that "disregard" is a better fit here, since what is happening is not exactly a "giving up" of one's judgment in the sense of being convinced that it was wrong, but rather a "going along with others" so as to not be perceived as deviant from the group. "Suppress" would also seem to accurately account for the behavior of experimental subjects.

Classic experiments of social conformity of this kind were conducted by Sherif (1936) and Asch (1951).

I agree with Simon's censure of the author for insertion of translation suggestions.

The following article contains a discussion of subjects' reasons for conformity in the Asch experiment:
https://www.simplypsychology.org/asch-conformity.html

Robert Forstag
United States
Local time: 07:51
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: English
PRO pts in category: 120

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