| Konudaki sayfalar: [1 2] > | Poll: How many Blue Board ratings have you made for outsourcers you've worked with? Konuyu gönderen: ProZ.com Staff
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| | | | Angus Stewart 
Birleşik Krallık
Local time: 07:26
Fransızca > İngilizce
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Only once in order to alert fellow translators to a formerly good agency that had over time become a non-payer.
| | | | Michael Harris
Almanya
Local time: 08:26
Üye (2006)
Almanca > İngilizce
and I am not going to take a look now anyway.
I do look at the blueboard now and again, but after having made "negative" ratings for a couple of companies and ProZ told me to delete them or ProZ deleted them by themselves, I do not really bother with it any more.
Thanks ProZ, you should be there for us, and not the non / bad payers!
[Edited at 2017-06-20 09:24 GMT]
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| Most of my clients | Jun 20, 2017 |
I try to make an entry for all the clients I've worked for at all regularly over the years, favourable or otherwise, as a guide to others.
I find the Blue Board one of Proz's most useful features and the more entries translators make the more useful it will be for everyone - in theory, at least.
| | | | Michael Harris
Almanya
Local time: 08:26
Üye (2006)
Almanca > İngilizce
Jenny Forbes wrote:
I try to make an entry for all the clients I've worked for at all regularly over the years, favourable or otherwise, as a guide to others.
I find the Blue Board one of Proz's most useful features and the more entries translators make the more useful it will be for everyone - in theory, at least.
But only if ProZ does not change the negative entries.
| | | | Ricki Farn
Almanya
Local time: 08:26
İngilizce > Almanca
| Most of my clients | Jun 20, 2017 |
Actually, I do it when fishing for LWA's. I give you one, you give me one. Is that bad?
I tried to make one negative entry, which resulted in the issue being solved very fast, but I think it was a genuine communication problem - a company where orphaned email exchanges remained after some employee(s) left, and the others were too overworked to complete them. Just the attempt at a "one" BlueBoard rating got people goin... See more Actually, I do it when fishing for LWA's. I give you one, you give me one. Is that bad?
I tried to make one negative entry, which resulted in the issue being solved very fast, but I think it was a genuine communication problem - a company where orphaned email exchanges remained after some employee(s) left, and the others were too overworked to complete them. Just the attempt at a "one" BlueBoard rating got people going. ▲ Collapse
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Surely the whole point of working for agencies is that once you've bagged that elusive first job they are overwhelmed by your brilliance and go on to send you regular work, so you only need a handful of them as customers and only need to replace one every few years.
I couldn't face a life of endless piddling one-offs for countless random agencies dotted around the world, whatever their Blue Board ratings.
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Robert Forstag
Amerika Birleşik Devletleri
Local time: 03:26
İspanyolca > İngilizce
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| Censorship of negative comments and combatting built-in positive bias | Jun 20, 2017 |
Michael Harris wrote:
Jenny Forbes wrote:
I try to make an entry for all the clients I've worked for at all regularly over the years, favourable or otherwise, as a guide to others.
I find the Blue Board one of Proz's most useful features and the more entries translators make the more useful it will be for everyone - in theory, at least.
But only if ProZ does not change the negative entries.
The easiest workaround is to submit an entry of "1" or "2" without comment.
The value of the BB would also improve if translators would self-impose a rule of not submitting any entry of "4" or "5" until they have collaborated at least 5 times with the rated outsourcer.
| | | | Michael Harris
Almanya
Local time: 08:26
Üye (2006)
Almanca > İngilizce
Robert Forstag wrote:
Michael Harris wrote:
Jenny Forbes wrote:
I try to make an entry for all the clients I've worked for at all regularly over the years, favourable or otherwise, as a guide to others.
I find the Blue Board one of Proz's most useful features and the more entries translators make the more useful it will be for everyone - in theory, at least.
But only if ProZ does not change the negative entries.
The easiest workaround is to submit an entry of "1" or "2" without comment.
The value of the BB would also improve if translators would self-impose a rule of not submitting any entry of "4" or "5" until they have collaborated at least 5 times with the rated outsourcer.
But in one of my cases, several translators all had the same problem with the agency as I did, with the same simple non-payer comment, and one day all of these ratings were deleted.
And why should a translator have 5 non-payments before rating a company as non-payer? And if several other translators also have the same problem then I find that we should be able to warn others?
| | | | Robert Forstag
Amerika Birleşik Devletleri
Local time: 03:26
İspanyolca > İngilizce
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I hope that someone from this site can give you a satisfactory answer to your questions.
My understanding is that even one instance of non-payment is grounds for a complaint to proz.com staff, and that two instances of verified non-payment constitute grounds for being prohibited from posting jobs on proz.com.
In the meantime, given the high probability that any rating accompanied by substantive negative comments will be deleted, the most practical workaround is to submi... See more I hope that someone from this site can give you a satisfactory answer to your questions.
My understanding is that even one instance of non-payment is grounds for a complaint to proz.com staff, and that two instances of verified non-payment constitute grounds for being prohibited from posting jobs on proz.com.
In the meantime, given the high probability that any rating accompanied by substantive negative comments will be deleted, the most practical workaround is to submit a negative rating without comment.
Such ratings should constitute a red flag for any translator contemplating work with the agency in question, and they can always contact the rater for the gory details.
The glaring inconsistency in the Blue Board is that while many negative comments are not permitted, no translators wishing to post high ratings accompanied by the most lavish of encomiums are prevented from doing so - even when such evaluations are based on completion of a single small project. ▲ Collapse
| | | | Thayenga
Almanya
Local time: 08:26
Üye (2009)
İngilizce > Almanca
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Out of those 17 entries, 4 were negative, e. g. 1. To my knowledge, they're still there.
The only time I make entries is after at least half a dozen projects and when everything went smoothly. Personally, I don't believe in the "back scratching policy". Since I do look at the BB before I accept a job from an unknown customer, I'd like to think that (most of) the entries are honest and based on solid facts, that is, (to a certain degree) being genuine information that helps translato... See more Out of those 17 entries, 4 were negative, e. g. 1. To my knowledge, they're still there.
The only time I make entries is after at least half a dozen projects and when everything went smoothly. Personally, I don't believe in the "back scratching policy". Since I do look at the BB before I accept a job from an unknown customer, I'd like to think that (most of) the entries are honest and based on solid facts, that is, (to a certain degree) being genuine information that helps translators to "evaluate" the customer a little better.
I know that this might be a little blue-eyed, at least when it comes to certain agencies that produce some 10 "5" ratings out of the blue after a couple "1" ratings, but as professionals only true entries should be made after a longer collaboration with that customer.
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Anne Bohy
Fransa
Local time: 08:26
İngilizce > Fransızca
| Proz should have these data | Jun 20, 2017 |
Thinking about it, I gave the wrong answer, but Proz should have the correct one.
HENCE: what's the use of such a poll?
| | | | Thayenga
Almanya
Local time: 08:26
Üye (2009)
İngilizce > Almanca
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bohy wrote:
HENCE: what's the use of such a poll?
Or of several other polls.
| | | | | LWA entries sometimes need to be updated to remain accurate | Jun 20, 2017 |
Hello,
I just wanted to step in to clarify the issues raised here.
Michael Harris wrote:
and I am not going to take a look now anyway.
I do look at the blueboard now and again, but after having made "negative" ratings for a couple of companies and ProZ told me to delete them or ProZ deleted them by themselves, I do not really bother with it any more.
Thanks ProZ, you should be there for us, and not the non / bad payers!
[Edited at 2017-06-20 09:24 GMT]
I looked into this and found that one of your negative LWA ratings was removed after payment was received. Since you stated in your entry that payment had not been made, it was no longer accurate. You were invited to make a new entry describing the current state of affairs when the entry was removed.
Other negative LWA entries you made were not removed or altered in any way, because they were in line with site rules and need not be modified.
If I missed any case where you think action was wrongfully taken by a member of site staff, please let me know and I will look into it. Note that mentioning outsourcers by name in the forums is not permitted, but please submit a support request to contact me. Thank you.
Best regards,
Alejandro
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