subrogado en los derechos

English translation: subrogated in the rights

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Spanish term or phrase:subrogado en los derechos
English translation:subrogated in the rights
Entered by: Adrian MM. (X)

01:34 Mar 25, 2012
Spanish to English translations [PRO]
Law/Patents - Law: Contract(s)
Spanish term or phrase: subrogado en los derechos
Here we go again with the same document as my previous questions. i.e. from a document originally drafted in Basque (probably based on Spanish regulations), then translated into Spanish, which I'm now translating into English.

I know what this means but I would have thought it was the other way around. i.e. the new owner would assume the rights and obligations of the previous owner?

El cambio de titularidad del establecimiento o de la empresa operadora no supondrá la extinción de la autorización de instalación vigente, quedando el nuevo titular subrogado en los derechos y obligaciones del anterior, hasta que se cumpla el período de vigencia.

No obstante, el nuevo titular podrá denunciar la validez de la autorización de instalación ante la Dirección de Juego y Espectáculos, en cuyo caso, la subrogación tendrá efectos por un período máximo de tres años, a partir de la fecha de la denuncia.

Thanks!
Richard Hill
Mexico
Local time: 03:16
subrogated in the rights
Explanation:
... and obligations, so takes over.

It's the right way round. The new proprietor *is* subrogated in the previous one's: quedando el nuevo titular subrogado en los derechos y obligaciones del anterior.

Subrogation is often used in insurance meaning the ins. co. stands in the shoes of the insured and takes over his or her rights and obligations e.g. to conduct litigation on the latter's behalf cf. assignment and novation of debts.

Note the prepositions: subrogation TO a party IN the rights and obligations.
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Adrian MM. (X)
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As you can see from the discussion, I had trouble getting my head around this term, but... Thanks, Tom
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4 +4subrogated in the rights
Adrian MM. (X)
5assumes the rights
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assumes the rights


Explanation:
Yes, your understanding is correct. The new owner assumes the rights and obligations of the previous owner.


    Reference: http://buscon.rae.es/draeI/
Carol Geraldine Chua Yu
United Kingdom
Local time: 09:17
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Asker: Thanks, Carol

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subrogated in the rights


Explanation:
... and obligations, so takes over.

It's the right way round. The new proprietor *is* subrogated in the previous one's: quedando el nuevo titular subrogado en los derechos y obligaciones del anterior.

Subrogation is often used in insurance meaning the ins. co. stands in the shoes of the insured and takes over his or her rights and obligations e.g. to conduct litigation on the latter's behalf cf. assignment and novation of debts.

Note the prepositions: subrogation TO a party IN the rights and obligations.


    Reference: http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/law_general/135...
Adrian MM. (X)
Local time: 10:17
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As you can see from the discussion, I had trouble getting my head around this term, but... Thanks, Tom

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  James A. Walsh: "Subrogated TO" I would have thought.
24 mins
  -> You've got many G/hits on your side for the prep. But IMO they are all wrong. NB subrogation TO a person IN his or her rights/concur WITH a person IN his or her opinion.

agree  Andy Watkinson
2 hrs
  -> Many thx. You may be on to a winner again.

agree  AllegroTrans
4 hrs
  -> Thx. Seems to be a straightforward answer to a straightforward question.

agree  Charles Davis: Definitely. I note that the House of Lords uses "subrogated to the rights of" here: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld199798/ldjudgmt/j... // "in" seems logical. I wondered if it was US/UK. Comment not intended mischievously!
7 hrs
  -> Hum! '...the subject of subrogation is bedeviled by problems of terminology .... Subrogated to a (land) charge... subrogated to rights'. The South African origins of two of the Law Lords in that case doubtless have no bearing on the question.
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