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Spindel am re OA lat. entnommen
Feb 20, 2009 21:08
15 yrs ago
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German term

zum Ganzen

German to English Law/Patents Law (general)
footnotes in a court decision: as in "Zum Ganzen siehe Scheuch 2000" on the fulltext preview page of http://www.springerlink.com/content/k00h7n135836065t/
or
"zum Ganzen siehe Burgstaller, JBl 2004" at http://www.hrr-strafrecht.de/hrr/archiv/05-04/index.php3?sei...
Any idea what the standard British expression would be for this?
Proposed translations (English)
3 -1 For full text, see...
3 +5 for a comprehensive view

Proposed translations

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For full text, see...

In a way you have answered your own question, Brainstorm. I got the cue from what you posted in the description field ["...on the fulltext preview page of ..."]


You may like to google for:
"for full text, see" + "court"


As you are looking for the standard British expression, I suggest that you go to google.co.uk and enter the above keywords to search for 'pages from the UK'.


Good luck!
Note from asker:
We explicitly pointed out that our original is taken from the footnotes in a court decision (a Swiss one we might add!). The references you cite as examples come from papers that may, in their given context, be using "for a comprehensive view" in the sense of "im Ganzen". I was unable to find, however, any court decisions in the Web using "for a more comprehensive view" in the sense of my original and I am rather doubtful that it is the "standard UK expression" in the given context.
Peer comment(s):
disagree Derek Gill Franßen : That is not what "zum Ganzen" means (IMHO). // It means someone else has done more research on the subject mentioned. // I stand by my comments (and disagreement)--I read these decisions and teach about them daily; regardless, my warmest wishes back. =)
4 days
Wouldn't the "full text" contain a more in-depth treatment of the subject, Derek?// You may like to see the asker's comment on your answer in the "Notes to answerer" box (under my answer). Warm wishes to you, Derek, from me :)
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thanks for the nudge ;)"
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for a comprehensive view

...or something like that, e.g., "for more on the whole subject [see ....]."

You can be quite creative here.

Also see http://www.google.de/search?q="for a comprehensive view see"...

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Note added at 36 mins (2009-02-20 21:45:01 GMT)
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Some specific examples of use:

Iraq and the United Nations, Post-War and Pre-Peace – The Dilemma ...
For a comprehensive view see Alex Boraine, ‘A Country Unmasked’, (Oxford: Oxford University Press. South Africa, 2000); David Dyzenhaus, ‘Judging the Judges ...
http://projects.essex.ac.uk/ehrr/V2N1/Sponeck.pdf

EUROPEAN PRINCIPLES GOVERNING NATIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE PROCEEDINGS
For a comprehensive view, see H. Adam and G. Winter,. Commission Guidance Addressed to Member States Agencies, in S. OURCES AND ...
http://www.law.duke.edu/shell/cite.pl?68 Law & Contemp. Prob...
Note from asker:
Thanks for your input!
Peer comment(s):
agree Bernhard Sulzer
1 hr
Thank you, Bernhard. :)
agree Inge Meinzer
3 hrs
agree David Hollywood
4 hrs
agree Edith Kelly
8 hrs
agree gangels (X)
1 day 27 mins
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