元老

English translation: elder statesman, senior statesman

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Chinese term or phrase:元老
English translation:elder statesman, senior statesman
Entered by: Gary Key

13:56 Dec 25, 2005
Chinese to English translations [PRO]
Government / Politics
Chinese term or phrase: 元老
国民党的元老.

元老是否译成senior officials? 有何借鉴?
joklin76
Local time: 06:25
elder statesmen
Explanation:
www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2002/nf20020520_1336.htm
PK Chiang is one of Taiwan's elder statesmen. A stalwart of the Kuomintang (KMT,or Nationalist) Party, Chiang served under former President Lee Teng-hui as a top economic adviser, first as chairman of the Council on Economic Planning ...

www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/magazine/2000/0609/nat.interview....
... recently talked with one of the region's foremost elder statesmen, Singapore Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew. ... Taiwan has been separate since 1945 with the Kuomintang. Since 1988 with its own, native Taiwanese president, ...

senior official is ok but doesn't render the idea of history or time spent in the party

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(statesman or statesmen)
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Gary Key
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:25
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4 +3elder statesmen
Gary Key
5 +1paramount leaders
Last Hermit
3 +2senior statesman; founding member
chica nueva
4 +1a veteran statesman
Angus Woo


  

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元老
elder statesmen


Explanation:
www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/may2002/nf20020520_1336.htm
PK Chiang is one of Taiwan's elder statesmen. A stalwart of the Kuomintang (KMT,or Nationalist) Party, Chiang served under former President Lee Teng-hui as a top economic adviser, first as chairman of the Council on Economic Planning ...

www.asiaweek.com/asiaweek/magazine/2000/0609/nat.interview....
... recently talked with one of the region's foremost elder statesmen, Singapore Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew. ... Taiwan has been separate since 1945 with the Kuomintang. Since 1988 with its own, native Taiwanese president, ...

senior official is ok but doesn't render the idea of history or time spent in the party

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(statesman or statesmen)

Gary Key
United Kingdom
Local time: 23:25
Native speaker of: Native in EnglishEnglish
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agree  licullen
4 hrs
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agree  Will Matter: This term correctly conveys the nuance of the original. Welcome to ProZ.
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agree  Francis Fine
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元老
paramount leaders


Explanation:
外电一般用"paramount leaders"称呼“八大顾命大臣”。

Last Hermit
Local time: 06:25
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
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Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  Ray Luo: Deng Xiaoping was a paramount leader.
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neutral  Gary Key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramount_leader
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7 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): +2
元老
senior statesman; founding member


Explanation:
元老 = 称政界年辈资望高的人(现代汉语词典)
元老 = senior statesman; founding member (of a political organisation, etc) (外研社:汉英词典)

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leader:

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王能祥先生(Mr. Neng-hsiang Wang), 华府台湾基督长老教会长老(Wheaton Taiwanese
Presbyterian Church), 台湾民主运动元老(Taiwan Democratic Movement Leader), 全侨
民主和平联盟巴城华府支盟共同副主席(Co-Chair, Global Alliance for Democracy and ...
www.epochtimes.com/gb/5/6/4/n944186.htm - 39k - 24 Dec 2005 - Cached - Similar pages

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创业元老 = founding father?:

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我和俞敏洪在北大是同班同学——“新东方”的五个“创业元老”里有三个是北大的同学。
除了我们两个还有一个是“新东方”的图书总策划包凡一老师,他是“新 ... 1995年,一个人
访问了我,他就是“新东方”的founding father,俞敏洪。我专门请了一个礼拜的假陪他。 ...
web.nenu.edu.cn/twweb1/tw/edu/ReadNews.asp?NewsID=550 - 31k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages



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'elders/seniors':

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这三部诗剧《鸡尾酒会》(The Cocktail Party)《机密职员》(The Confidential Clerk)《
政界元老》(The Elder Statesman)分别在1949年,1953年,1958年的爱丁堡艺术节上首演。
艾略特1965年1月逝世于伦敦。他的纪念碑坐落于西斯特敏斯特修道院的诗人 ...
www.hotcinema.com/dissertation/ pg/cats/closethecat_03.htm - 36k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

113 older , elder - [ Translate this page ]
You are all elder statesmen. 你们都是政治元老/资深政客。 Tom,You should be
humble enough.They are all our elders. 汤姆,你要谦虚些,他们都是我们的长辈。
(二)older只能用作形容词,常与than连用;elder 既可作形容词,又可作名词,它决不 ...
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在西BOS,这些称号是截然分开的。一般而言,只有Paladin才可以拿到最好的武器装备;
可是没有研究室使用权。 the High Elder: 最高元老,不能成为。 the Elders: 元老
会,不能成为。 Paladin General/Knight Master/Master Scirbe: ...
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复仇者FireBot - [ Translate this page ]
8、EOP级管理员(Elder operator)。即元老级管理员。为FIREBOT总部管理员。节制所有
级别的管理员。可由地区管理员兼任。 9、ChinaFire。FireBot版权所有人,FireBot事务
最高管理者。 三、申请管理员. 申请成为FireBot管理员,须填定如下内容,并作为邮件 ...
www.roomage.com/firebot/fireweb/fireoper.htm - 8k - Cached - Similar pages

星网 - [ Translate this page ]
柯林顿还不到六十岁,却已成为美国最有人望的元老政治家(elder statesman)。去年大选前
作心脏绕道手术后,清瘦不少,亦显得有点憔悴,但他仍马不停蹄,为基金会、总统图书馆、
防治爱滋、振兴民主党和救济南亚海啸灾民而劳碌奔波,他希望能做一位杰出的“ ...
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便宜啦论坛- 关于元老院! - [ Translate this page ]
元老VS长老. 据本人所知: [COLOR=RED]元老 yuánlǎo 金山king软soft件 [senior
statesman] 古时称天子的老臣,现指政界年辈资望高的人; 长老:长老 zhǎnglǎo 金soft
软件king山 [elder]∶年纪大的人 [elder of a Buddhist monastery]∶对和尚的尊称 ...
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the old guard = 元老派(贬义词):

中文支援 - [ Translate this page ]
... 老头儿old flame+旧情人+老相好old fogey+守旧者+老顽固old fogy+守旧者+老顽固old
fool+大傻瓜+老是干傻事old fox+老狐狸+老奸巨猾old friend+老友+老朋友old girl+校友+
老同学+老姊姊old Glory+美国旗old guard+老旧派+保守派+元老派old hand+老手+ ...
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谭慎格:民主理想已在台湾生根茁壮 - [ Translate this page ]
我才提过的国民党元老在星期六晚上?弃法治?在星期天不是带头领导?就是公开支持暴民
去包围台北总统府及在其它城市施乱。 ... The vitriol with which The story is being
kept alive by The most passionate KMT old-guard appalls even younger Blue ...
www.chinatopnews.com/gb/MainNews/ Opinion/2004_3_31_21_3_27_205.html - 52k - Supplemental Result - Cached - Similar pages

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http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:TIDVXD4TPQkJ:www.chinat...

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-> 元老 = elders; 死忠分子 = old-guard...

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"The above-mentioned KMT elders abandoned the rule of law on Saturday night and Sunday by supporting--whenever they weren't leading--menacing crowds that laid siege to the Presidential Office in Taipei and abetted unrest in other cities. "
"我才提过的国民党元老在星期六晚上?弃法治?在星期天不是带头领导?就是公开支持暴民去包围台北总统府及在其它城市施乱。"

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founder:

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她进公司的时候,正值公司初创,除了老板也只有四五个员工,所以用时髦的话来讲,简
可算作这家公司的“FOUNDER”,即“元老”。简是典型的上海女孩,办事聪明而且努力,又懂得
鉴貌辨色,无论是在外面搞销售跑业务,还是回到公司兼顾行政工作,样样都干得 ...
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-> I'd go for 'elders', closest to the original.

chica nueva
Local time: 10:25
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Native speaker of: English
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agree  Francis Fine: Please note: he/she is often, but not always, a founding member of the institution.
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agree  Gary Key: I think these answers are just as valid as my own entry!
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2 days 16 hrs   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +1
元老
a veteran statesman


Explanation:
My 2 cents

Angus Woo
Local time: 06:25
Specializes in field
Native speaker of: Native in ChineseChinese
PRO pts in category: 32

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agree  Kerong Zhao: I think this is the best choice.
1 hr
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