Glossary entry (derived from question below)
Persian (Farsi) term or phrase:
مردمی
English translation:
popular, public
Added to glossary by
Ebrahim Golavar
Jul 21, 2010 14:29
13 yrs ago
Persian (Farsi) term
مردمی
Persian (Farsi) to English
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سربداران
Greetings,
Everything in me wants to say that قیامی مردمی = a popular uprising, مردمی being an adjective coined from مردم.
However, I do feel I need to consult you first as مردمی is not to be found anywhere I have looked as an adjective.
I hope I am right in thinking that قیامی مردمی can't be a possessive construction (X of Y) as it wouldn't be allowed to have an indefinite ی after the first word of the pair.
Plenty of context:
پس از یکصد و بیست سال استیلای قوم تاتار و مغول بر ایران و بسیاری از مناطق آسیا، قیامی مردمی در باشتین و سبزوار خراسان علیه ظلم و تعدی حاکمان مغول و عاملان آنان به وقوع پیوست. این نهضت که به قیام سربداران شهرت یافته‌است، از لحاظ وسعت، بزرگ‌ترین، از نظر تاریخی مهم ترین جنبش آزادی بخش خاورمیانه در قرن هشتم هجری بود. تلاش
All the best, and many thanks,
Simon
Everything in me wants to say that قیامی مردمی = a popular uprising, مردمی being an adjective coined from مردم.
However, I do feel I need to consult you first as مردمی is not to be found anywhere I have looked as an adjective.
I hope I am right in thinking that قیامی مردمی can't be a possessive construction (X of Y) as it wouldn't be allowed to have an indefinite ی after the first word of the pair.
Plenty of context:
پس از یکصد و بیست سال استیلای قوم تاتار و مغول بر ایران و بسیاری از مناطق آسیا، قیامی مردمی در باشتین و سبزوار خراسان علیه ظلم و تعدی حاکمان مغول و عاملان آنان به وقوع پیوست. این نهضت که به قیام سربداران شهرت یافته‌است، از لحاظ وسعت، بزرگ‌ترین، از نظر تاریخی مهم ترین جنبش آزادی بخش خاورمیانه در قرن هشتم هجری بود. تلاش
All the best, and many thanks,
Simon
Proposed translations
(English)
| 5 +4 | popular, public |
Ebrahim Golavar
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| 5 +4 | the people's uprising |
Ali Beikian
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| 5 | public |
Reza Rostamzadeh Khosroshahi
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Change log
Jul 23, 2010 19:53: Ebrahim Golavar changed "Edited KOG entry" from "<a href="/profile/61459">SeiTT's</a> old entry - "مردمی"" to ""popular, public""
Proposed translations
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Ebrahim Golavar
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popular, public
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Peer comment(s):
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Armineh Johannes
: armineh johannes - yes popular
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thanks a lot
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Behnam Paran
: popular
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thanks a lot
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Edward Plaisance Jr
: popular in this case
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thanks a lot
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Farzad Akmali
1 day 14 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "many thanks excellent"
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Reza Rostamzadeh Khosroshahi
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public
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Ali Beikian
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the people's uprising
the people's: belonging to or popular with the ordinary people
the people's uprising: قیام مردمی
We do have similar phrases like the people's party (حزب مردمی)/army (ارتش مردمی)/movement (نهضت مردمی), etc.
Example:
Diana - the people's princess
Persian: دیانا - شاهزاده مردمی
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Note added at 16 hrs (2010-07-22 07:17:08 GMT)
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مردمی is an adjective coined from.
Please look at the following examples where مردمی is used as an adjective:
اداره ارتباطات مردمی و افکارسنجی اداره کل روابط عمومی
پایگاه مردمی برگزاری روز قدس
رئیس اداره مشارکت های مردمی آموزرش وپرورش استان ایلام
سيستم دريافت کمک های مردمی موسسه خيريه حمايت از کودکان مبتلا به سرطان
قیامی مردمی can be both a possessive construction and an adjectival one. Here it IS allowed to have an indefinite ی after the first word of the pair. قیامی مردمی can simply be rephrased to "یک قیام مردمی", which means an uprising belonging to or popular with ordinary people, so it can be translated to:
a popular uprising: an uprising popular with ordinary people
a people's uprising: an uprising belonging to ordinary people
Examples of the use of " a pouplar uprising":
Nagy, the only remaining Hungarian leader with credibility in both the eyes of the public and the Soviets, "at long last concluded that a popular uprising rather than a counter-revolution was taking place".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956
Finally, a popular uprising
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/finally-a-popul...
Time for a popular uprising against provincial wine policies?
http://rodphillipsonwine.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...
Examples of the use of " a people's uprising":
Nobody has seen a people’s uprising on this scale since the anti-colonial movements in the nineteen forties.
http://sanhati.com/front-page/1083/
What happened in Tatton in 1997 was a people’s insurrection against an MP they really disliked and distrusted, and I think we’re going to get more of the same in 2010.
http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/03/martin-bell-on-afghanistan-brit...
It calls for a people’s uprising, I would say.”
http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/03/martin-bell-on-afghanistan-brit...
So the question remains: Was it just a people's uprising, or had Kyrgyzstan become the platform for another round of the "Great Game?"
http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=31486&t=The Ro...
the people's uprising: قیام مردمی
We do have similar phrases like the people's party (حزب مردمی)/army (ارتش مردمی)/movement (نهضت مردمی), etc.
Example:
Diana - the people's princess
Persian: دیانا - شاهزاده مردمی
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Note added at 16 hrs (2010-07-22 07:17:08 GMT)
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مردمی is an adjective coined from.
Please look at the following examples where مردمی is used as an adjective:
اداره ارتباطات مردمی و افکارسنجی اداره کل روابط عمومی
پایگاه مردمی برگزاری روز قدس
رئیس اداره مشارکت های مردمی آموزرش وپرورش استان ایلام
سيستم دريافت کمک های مردمی موسسه خيريه حمايت از کودکان مبتلا به سرطان
قیامی مردمی can be both a possessive construction and an adjectival one. Here it IS allowed to have an indefinite ی after the first word of the pair. قیامی مردمی can simply be rephrased to "یک قیام مردمی", which means an uprising belonging to or popular with ordinary people, so it can be translated to:
a popular uprising: an uprising popular with ordinary people
a people's uprising: an uprising belonging to ordinary people
Examples of the use of " a pouplar uprising":
Nagy, the only remaining Hungarian leader with credibility in both the eyes of the public and the Soviets, "at long last concluded that a popular uprising rather than a counter-revolution was taking place".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_Revolution_of_1956
Finally, a popular uprising
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/finally-a-popul...
Time for a popular uprising against provincial wine policies?
http://rodphillipsonwine.com/index.php?option=com_content&ta...
Examples of the use of " a people's uprising":
Nobody has seen a people’s uprising on this scale since the anti-colonial movements in the nineteen forties.
http://sanhati.com/front-page/1083/
What happened in Tatton in 1997 was a people’s insurrection against an MP they really disliked and distrusted, and I think we’re going to get more of the same in 2010.
http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/03/martin-bell-on-afghanistan-brit...
It calls for a people’s uprising, I would say.”
http://thelinc.co.uk/2010/03/martin-bell-on-afghanistan-brit...
So the question remains: Was it just a people's uprising, or had Kyrgyzstan become the platform for another round of the "Great Game?"
http://www.speroforum.com/site/article.asp?id=31486&t=The Ro...
Peer comment(s):
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Behnam Paran
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Thank you very much!
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| agree |
Farzad Akmali
1 day 13 hrs
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Thank you very much, Sir!
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Fereidoon Keyvani
10 days
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| agree |
Ryan Emami
: Exactly!
11 days
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Discussion
مردمي is an adjective and it can be an adjective in so many other contexts such as چهره مردمي، اجتماع مردمي، حركت مردمي.
It is not a possessive construction at all.