Dec 13, 2009 03:00
14 yrs ago
Spanish term
«el lugar desde donde se habla»
Spanish to English
Social Sciences
Government / Politics
I've got the idea, but does anyone know if there's a specific term for this?
«el lugar desde donde se habla»
Hugo Achugar es uno de los pocos autores de esos volúmenes que cuestiona el concepto, aunque como él mismo señala su interés central es el de participar en la discusión desarrollada en el ámbito de la crítica cultural en relación con problemas como la memoria, la nación, la desterritorialización, al mismo tiempo que busca debatir la posdictadura en Uruguay y los problemas de las políticas del conocimiento, como **«el lugar desde donde se habla».**
Thanks in advance
«el lugar desde donde se habla»
Hugo Achugar es uno de los pocos autores de esos volúmenes que cuestiona el concepto, aunque como él mismo señala su interés central es el de participar en la discusión desarrollada en el ámbito de la crítica cultural en relación con problemas como la memoria, la nación, la desterritorialización, al mismo tiempo que busca debatir la posdictadura en Uruguay y los problemas de las políticas del conocimiento, como **«el lugar desde donde se habla».**
Thanks in advance
Proposed translations
(English)
Proposed translations
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(like/such as?) standpoint / world view
Standpoint theory is a postmodern method for analyzing inter-subjective discourses [ .....]
According to this approach:
* A standpoint is a place from which human beings view the world.
* A standpoint influences how the people adopting it socially construct the world.
* Social group membership affects people's standpoints.
* The inequalities of different social groups create differences in their standpoints.
* All standpoints are partial; so (for example) Standpoint feminism coexists with other standpoints.
According to this approach:
* A standpoint is a place from which human beings view the world.
* A standpoint influences how the people adopting it socially construct the world.
* Social group membership affects people's standpoints.
* The inequalities of different social groups create differences in their standpoints.
* All standpoints are partial; so (for example) Standpoint feminism coexists with other standpoints.
Note from asker:
| 'Standpoint theory' sounds interesting. Going to look into that! Thanks |
4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thank you so much. I found the term very useful. Actually, I took a little something from several answers."
8 mins
David Hollywood
Native in English
worked for int. orgs (IMF, OAS, IDB)
Native in: English
Works in: Spanish to English, German to English
Related KudoZ points
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223
where we're coming from/the source of the debate
maybe
Note from asker:
| Thanks, David. I personally like the colloquial touch, though the tone of the paper is rather formal. |
1 hr
his perspective
Lugar = Pasaje, texto, autoridad o sentencia; expresión o conjunto de expresiones de un autor, o de un libro escrito. (REAL ACADEMIA ESPAÑOLA)
Note from asker:
| Thanks! I thought I'd already thanked you, but I must have forgotten to click 'submit' |
2 hrs
Muriel Vasconcellos
United States
United States
Native in English
Specializes in field
United States
Each translation a gem!
Native in: English (Variant: US) 
Works in: Spanish to English, Portuguese to English
Related KudoZ points
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468
Spanish term (edited):
el lugar desde donde se habla
the perspective from which he speaks
Straightforward.
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Muriel! |
10 hrs
the environment of current discussion
"se habla" is impersonal, so it's not what he is saying, but the general debate, discussion in this area.
"el lugar desde donde" is then the situation, the common ground, the shared history and philosophy of those who are discussing
"el lugar desde donde" is then the situation, the common ground, the shared history and philosophy of those who are discussing
Note from asker:
| Thanks, Joss. |
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
ormiston
: I agree that it's not 'his' but 'people's but feel you have eclipsed the 'specific viewpoint' bit
11 mins
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22 hrs
James A. Walsh
Spain
Spain
Native in Spanish
&
English
Specializes in field
Spain
A cut above the rest in translation...
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK, Irish) 
, Spanish (Variants: Standard-Spain, Latin American)
Works in: Spanish to English, French to English, English to Spanish, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
:
100
"within the context of how it really was”
Again, my take on your text.
I think I would split the paragraph into 2 sentences, and render the second one something like this:
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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-12-14 01:17:51 GMT)
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or "in real context", as I posted earlier...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-12-14 01:51:41 GMT)
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You did Christine, but I chose to hide it, and re-answer...
I think I would split the paragraph into 2 sentences, and render the second one something like this:
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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-12-14 01:17:51 GMT)
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or "in real context", as I posted earlier...
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Note added at 22 hrs (2009-12-14 01:51:41 GMT)
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You did Christine, but I chose to hide it, and re-answer...
Example sentence:
He also sought to discuss both the post-dictatorship era in Uruguay, and the problems that came with the politics of knowledge -- but, "within the context of how it really was”.
Note from asker:
| Tocayo, I thought I'd already thanked you. Sorry, I'm half asleep. |
| Thanks again, James (3rd time?) I found your construction really useful, but couldn't split the points! |
Discussion
My reading was: Achugar questions Pierre Nora's concept (this concept as applied to Uruguay is what the article itself analyses) but is interested in participating in the critical debate on memory et al, but at the same time wants to discuss the current Uruguayan post dictatorship situation and the problems with 'políticas del conocimiento', one of which is 'el lugar desde dónde se habla'.
I'm not quite certain whether 'el lugar...' is one of the policies or one of the problems