Glossary entry

English term or phrase:

sea-raiders.

Portuguese translation:

conquistadores/invasores/escotos

Added to glossary by Marlene Curtis
Dec 28, 2008 16:33
15 yrs ago
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English term

sea-raiders.

English to Portuguese Other Poetry & Literature Twilight of Avalon
Drustan has been pressed by Irish sea-raiders.
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Dec 28, 2008 16:33: changed "Kudoz queue" from "In queue" to "Public"

Jan 2, 2009 12:46: Marlene Curtis Created KOG entry

Discussion

kashew Dec 28, 2008:
I don't have the context, but it would seem significant that the English writer employed "sea-raiders" and not corsairs or pirates or buccaneers.

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conquistadores/invasores/escotos

Ao contrário do que se acredita the Irish sea-raiders não eram piratas ou corsários, pois seu objetivo era o de conquistar a Irlanda e não o de pilhar e partir. Veja abaixo.

origins ... Gaels of England became easy targets for the fierce Scotic sea raiders. .... They were not as quarrelsome amongst themselves as were the Scoti. ...
members.tripod.com/~Hal_MacGregor/gregor/Scythia.html - 33k - Cached - Similar pages -
ullansacademy.co.uk - History Many knew them merely as 'the Sea Raiders'. They decided to adopt the name as their own. Sea Raiders, in their Gaelic tongue, was pronounced 'Scoti'. ...
www.ullansacademy.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=b...


Scoti
Scoti or Scotti (Old Irish Scot, modern Scottish Gaelic Sgaothaich) was the generic name given by the Romans to Gaelic raiders from Ireland. Some of them, from the nascent Kingdom of Dál Riata, in what is now Ulster, settled in Argyll (Earra-Ghàidheal, East Gaels), where they extended Dál Riata. In time the name became applied to all the people within the regions successive generations conquered, hence the modern words Scot and Scotland. It is not believed that any Gaelic groups called themselves Scoti in ancient times, except when referring to themselves in Latin

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escotos

http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escotos
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neutral kashew : Interesting: asker could give us better historical context.
7 mins
If you read the history of Ireland, you will see that's exactly what it is...
agree Clara Duarte : Sem mais contexto, parece-me ser isso mesmo, Marlene.
44 mins
Grata Clara!
agree Maria Eugenia Farre : Invasores me parece bom.
6 hrs
Grata Maria Eugenia!
agree Joice Costa
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Grata Joice!
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English term (edited): sea-raider

lapario/pirata

buccaneer, sea robber, sea rover, pirate - someone who robs at sea or
"plunders the land from the sea"
without having a commission from any sovereign nation.

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Pirate/pirata seems Ok if it is mythical Avalon (an island?) that is being plundered.
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corsários

Um corso ou corsário era um pirata que, por missão ou carta de marca de um governo, era autorizado a pilhar navios de outra nação, aproveitando o facto de ...
pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corsário - 26k - Em cache - Páginas semelhantes

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According to the information in the sites below, irish sea-raiders did attack other places
- part of a late 4th century build, associated with Segontium in Caernarfon, which was formed to defend the west coast of Wales against Irish sea-raiders. ...
aberystwyth-online.blip.tv/rss - 155k
- Irish Sea raiders pillaged the western cost of Britain with ease since the majority of Roman legions were called away to defend Italy from the Goth and ...
www.bbc.co.uk/legacies/myths_legends/northern_ireland/ni_5/... - 2
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agree Isabel Maria Almeida
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Obrigada, Isabel. Bom Domingo!
agree Maria Teresa Borges de Almeida
9 mins
Obrigada, Teresa. Bom Domingo!
neutral kashew : In the case of Irish, probably unauthorised. Land raids from the sea.
13 mins
They did exist, probably not as famous as French and English, though. Please, see www.jucepa.pa.gov.br/sn_nppontos.asp. Have a good Sunday.
agree Maria José Tavares (X)
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Obrigada, Maria José. Bom Domingo!
agree priscilalaterza
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Obrigada, priscilalaterza. Bom Domingo!
agree rhandler
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Obrigada, rhandler. Bom Domingo!
agree soaresmary : soaresmary
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Obrigada, soaresmary.
agree Luísa Taveira
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Obrigada, Luísa.
agree Sonia Heidemann
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agree Artur Jorge Martins
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neutral Maria Eugenia Farre : Concordo com Kashew, corsário é coisa de outro tempo da história.
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vikings

Sug.


Encontrei estes artigos que talvez possam ajudar:

- Donde a idéia de que a história remonte ao tempo dos vikings na Irlanda. ... " Tristan" proviria então de "Drest", "Drystan", "Drust", "Drustan". ...
www.misteriosantigos.com/tristao_isolda.htm - 40k

Vikings: sea-raiders and traders
- In AD 793, a daring raid across the North Sea on the monastery of Lindisfarne by Norse pirates heralded the start of the Viking period. Over the next two centuries swift sailing ships enabled the Vikings to extend their attacks to the undefended, coastal and riverine ports, towns and monasteries of western Europe and beyond. The name Viking came to mean sea-raider, though today it is applied to all the pagan peoples of Scandinavia who spoke dialects of Old Norse. These peoples shared a similar material culture from the late eighth to the eleventh century and comprised the Danes, Norwegians, Swedes and the inhabitants of Gotland. At first they lived in a number of small kingdoms. But, as the more aggressive Viking rulers sought to increase their wealth and power with the support of warrior elites, the smaller kingdoms were absorbed by their more powerful neighbours.www.britishmuseum.org/explore/highlights/article_index/v/vi...
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