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This poll was originally submitted by Mihai Badea
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This poll was originally submitted by Mihai Badea
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A forum topic will appear each time a new poll is run. For more information, see: http://proz.com/topic/33629 ▲ Collapse | | | Mihai Badea (X) Luxembourg English to Romanian + ... A definition of Unicode | Jan 28, 2006 |
Hi! For those who don’t know about Unicode, here is a definition of it: “A code similar to ASCII, used for representing commonly used symbols in a digital form. Unlike ASCII, however, Unicode uses a 16-bit dataspace, and so can support a wide variety of non-Roman alphabets including Cyrillic, Han Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Korean, Bengali, and so on. Supporting common non-Roman alphabets is of interest to community networks, which may want to promote multicultural a... See more Hi! For those who don’t know about Unicode, here is a definition of it: “A code similar to ASCII, used for representing commonly used symbols in a digital form. Unlike ASCII, however, Unicode uses a 16-bit dataspace, and so can support a wide variety of non-Roman alphabets including Cyrillic, Han Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, Korean, Bengali, and so on. Supporting common non-Roman alphabets is of interest to community networks, which may want to promote multicultural aspects of their systems.” teladesign.com/ma-thesis/glossary.html Why would we want to migrate to Unicode? Because it would allow us to speak the same digital language, to say so. Unicode would spare us pages like this one http://www.proz.com/kudoz/1235924, where you have to use two different encodings in order to read all the content. I hope I managed to give you an idea about what Unicode is, but I would be grateful if someone with better technical knowledge would come and explain it more in detail. ▲ Collapse | | | an issue of much interest to the community... | Jan 28, 2006 |
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Without Unicode I can't even see my name screened properly on some of sites on ProZ Sometimes it's ok, sometimes weird things happen to 2 of letters and finally I have to set up proper coding manually. I use Firefox and it "gets lost" while choosing coding when showing some of pages, on which there are many different languages, which don't share the same way of writing. And sometimes it's very hard to read things (esp... See more Without Unicode I can't even see my name screened properly on some of sites on ProZ Sometimes it's ok, sometimes weird things happen to 2 of letters and finally I have to set up proper coding manually. I use Firefox and it "gets lost" while choosing coding when showing some of pages, on which there are many different languages, which don't share the same way of writing. And sometimes it's very hard to read things (especially on language forums), because the browser can't decipher some characters at all (I suppose it's also caused by different coding of browsers of authors of posts). So - I would see Unicode as improvement Anni ▲ Collapse | |
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I'm pretty much lo-tech | Jan 28, 2006 |
I don't know a thing about the technical issues involved, but if Unicode can improve multilingual communication, Proz is obviously the right place for it. I haven't experienced any difficulties between Spanish and English, but clearly there's a daily hassle for my colleagues in many other languages. Keep us posted, Proz staff! | | | An article on Unicode | Jan 28, 2006 |
I would like to know about Unicode. It would be interesting. Who can write it? Inés | | | Özden Arıkan Germany Local time: 13:32 Member English to Turkish + ...
was my vote, too, because we Turkish speakers have the same problem Anni described. I also understand those who chose "What's Unicode?" and "I don't care" options perfectly well, but I would like to hear the opinions of those who chose "No". Being another lo-tech on board, I wonder if there would be any problems due to Unicode migration. | | | Ford Prefect Burkina Faso Local time: 12:32 German to English + ...
I think we should change, it's a pain in the proverbial having to guess which of the dozens of different codes the browser offers you have to use just to view non English characters. Even simple accented characters are affected, let alone Russian and other languages. And another thing, whenever you change in Internet Explorer, it never sticks - even worse it then seems to pick different codes at random for different pages, on proz and elsewhere! | |
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Mihai Badea (X) Luxembourg English to Romanian + ... A sense of community | Jan 28, 2006 |
Konstantin Kisin wrote: an issue of much interest to the community... Obviously, most colleagues don’t know about the encoding-related problems because they are not affected by them. However, if they knew that Unicode would make Proz.com more user-friendly for some of us, I’m sure they would vote yes. | | | P Waters United Kingdom English to Tagalog + ... Yes to unicode! | Jan 28, 2006 |
Unicode will be very useful in Proz.com. The Unicode Standard is an industry-standard, worldwide character set specification designed to allow for the global interchange of multilingual digital information. The inventors of the standard had the goal of supporting all the world’s scripts while accommodating existing national and international character sets. The Unicode Standard has been endorsed by all major hardware and software companies in addition to the International Organiz... See more Unicode will be very useful in Proz.com. The Unicode Standard is an industry-standard, worldwide character set specification designed to allow for the global interchange of multilingual digital information. The inventors of the standard had the goal of supporting all the world’s scripts while accommodating existing national and international character sets. The Unicode Standard has been endorsed by all major hardware and software companies in addition to the International Organization for Standardization. In fact, the Unicode Standard and the international standard ISO 10646 have been in tandem for several years. Since both standards support the same character repertoire, companies can confidently embrace the Unicode Standard without worrying about competing specifications. ▲ Collapse | | | Heidi C Local time: 08:32 English to Spanish + ... Voted "don't know", but now would change to YES | Jan 28, 2006 |
It does make sense; after all, we are a community of translators. Actually, sometimes these problems also affect Spanish: in some cases, the accents and Ñ's don't appear and we also get the weird character combinations... Would we have to make changes to be able to read Unicode? Saludos, heidi | | | Heidi C Local time: 08:32 English to Spanish + ... An example how this affects even English! | Jan 28, 2006 |
Mihai Badea wrote: Konstantin Kisin wrote: an issue of much interest to the community... Obviously, most colleagues don’t know about the encoding-related problems because they are not affected by them. However, if they knew that Unicode would make Proz.com more user-friendly for some of us, I’m sure they would vote yes. well, here you see it! obviously apostrophes become ’ | |
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KathyT Australia Local time: 23:32 Japanese to English YES PLEEEEEEEEASE!!!! | Jan 28, 2006 |
We have been having encoding problems in language pairs that include Japanese for some time now. Naturally, this is compounded when combined with other Asian or European languages. ProZ.com staff initiated a trial run using Unicode in the Japanese forums recently and so far this looks very promising. Even such as in Heidi's post above, my default encoding makes words that contain apostrophes such as "don't" and "I'm" initially come out with Chinese characters (not slashes, et... See more | | | Özden Arıkan Germany Local time: 13:32 Member English to Turkish + ...
And for the benefit of the 52.2% -for now- of voters, as well as everyone else: The Universal Code.
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Mihai Badea wrote: Konstantin Kisin wrote: an issue of much interest to the community... Obviously, most colleagues don’t know about the encoding-related problems because they are not affected by them. However, if they knew that Unicode would make Proz.com more user-friendly for some of us, I’m sure they would vote yes. Mihai, I certainly voted yes because it would make the life of all the people working in my pairs far far easier...I was simply amazed at how few people know or care about this issue! Konstantin | | | Pages in topic: [1 2] > | To report site rules violations or get help, contact a site moderator: You can also contact site staff by submitting a support request » Poll: Would you like to see ProZ.com migrate to Unicode? CafeTran Espresso | You've never met a CAT tool this clever!
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