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İspanyolca: interesante alforje en el coro.

İngilizce translation: interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling






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İspanyolca terim veya ifade: interesante alforje en el coro.
İngilizce çeviri:interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling
Giren:Thomas Fryer
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İspanyolca - İngilizce çeviriler [PRO]
Tech/Engineering - Mimarlık / Churches
İspanyolca terim veya ifade: interesante alforje en el coro.
The text is a brief description of a Spanish church. The full sentence here reads "Las bóvedas en general, de terceletes e interesante alforje en el coro". I cannot for life of me determine what the "alforje" is. It does not appear in any of the technical dictionaries I have or on www.rae.es.
Thomas Fryer
İspanya
Clarification request(s) and response
desertfox: 21:28 Feb 10, 2008: What is the name of the church? maybe that can help.
Thomas Fryer: 21:31 Feb 10, 2008: Name of Church - Iglesia de la Asunción in Monreal del Llano in Castilla La Mancha
aceavila - Noni: 09:20 Feb 11, 2008: Two practicable translations - now for you to decide how much detail you need! (I also tend to think that English readers do not really want as much as the Spanish traditionally get thrust at them in this kind of text...)
aceavila - Noni: 09:25 Feb 11, 2008: "Próximamente comenzarán las obras de conservación y restauración en el alfarje (artesonado de madera) situado bajo el coro de la iglesia parroquial de Santa María Magdalena, de Orgaz."
aceavila - Noni: 09:25 Feb 11, 2008: http://www.abc.es/hemeroteca/historico-07-08-2006/abc/Toledo...
trnet: 11:57 Feb 11, 2008: Thomas. I would call this simply "delicate carved ornamental timber work in the choir". It is on the underside of the choir floor as seen from below, and there are many of these fine examples in Spanish churches.

interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling
Açıklama:
It took me a while to find this beasty. I am more inclined to believe alforje is a typo for ALFARJE which refers to the underside of the choir box.
El Diccionario Espasa-Calpe dice (y lo confirma la RAE):
Alfarje m. Techumbre plana con maderas labradas, ornamentadas y entrelazadas artísticamente, que puede estar dispuesta para servir de suelo a la planta superior: ejemplo > alfarje de nogal.



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Note added at 14 hrs (2008-02-11 11:41:02 GMT)
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Of course the choir box ornamental ceiling (artesanado) is the view from below the choir i.e. from the church floor level, as described by the author of the article. Artesanado is the description given by Espasa, RAE and Maria Moliner.
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trnet
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4 +3interesting decoration in the choirVittorio Ferretti
4 +1interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling
trnet
3 +1Interesting woodwork in the choir ceiling
desertfox


  

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36 dakika   güven düzeyi: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 meslektaşların kabul sayısı (net): +3
interesting decoration in the choir


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Larousse: alforja 3. Amér. adorno, colgajo.
"Americanisms" sometiimes stem from old Castilian ...

Vittorio Ferretti
Almanya
Anadili: Almanca
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Soru soran: Many thanks for your help.


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katılıyorum Edward Tully
1 saat

katılıyorum aceavila - Noni: It solves the problem!
11 saat

tarafsız trnet: As you know now, this is not some ornament hanging from anywhere in the choir related etymologically to "alforja".
14 saat

katılıyorum Cecilia Della Croce
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12 saat   güven düzeyi: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 meslektaşların kabul sayısı (net): +1
Interesting woodwork in the choir ceiling


Açıklama:
This way you don't complicate things too much.

desertfox
İsrail
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Soru soran: Many thanks for your help.


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katılıyorum Nikki Graham
1 gün36 dakika
  -> Thanks a lot!
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2 saat   güven düzeyi: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 meslektaşların kabul sayısı (net): +1
interesting artistic carved and crossed ornamental timber work in the choir ceiling


Açıklama:
It took me a while to find this beasty. I am more inclined to believe alforje is a typo for ALFARJE which refers to the underside of the choir box.
El Diccionario Espasa-Calpe dice (y lo confirma la RAE):
Alfarje m. Techumbre plana con maderas labradas, ornamentadas y entrelazadas artísticamente, que puede estar dispuesta para servir de suelo a la planta superior: ejemplo > alfarje de nogal.



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Note added at 14 hrs (2008-02-11 11:41:02 GMT)
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Of course the choir box ornamental ceiling (artesanado) is the view from below the choir i.e. from the church floor level, as described by the author of the article. Artesanado is the description given by Espasa, RAE and Maria Moliner.

trnet
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Many thanks for an extremely helpful answer.

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katılıyorum aceavila - Noni: Slightly confused - is the choir box up above? But seems v convincing.
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