bessere, humanere, allen unedlen Motiven fernere Menschen - No one I know is better, more humane or further removed from base/ignoble motives than these people ( translation glossary) Tarih,Sosyal Bilimler

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Almanca terim veya ifade:	bessere, humanere, allen unedlen Motiven fernere Menschen
İngilizce çeviri:	No one I know is better, more humane or further removed from base/ignoble motives than these people
Giren:	Yvonne Becker

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19:49 Jan 3, 2006

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Social Sciences - Tarih

Almanca terim veya ifade: bessere, humanere, allen unedlen Motiven fernere Menschen

So schrieb er Anfang 1884 an seine Verlobte Martha Bernays über einen Besuch bei der Familie seines alten Lehrers
Samuel Hammerschlag:

"Ich bat ihn dann um die Erlaubnis, Rosa hinaufzubringen .... Ich kenne keine **besseren, humaneren, allen unedlen Motiven ferneren Menschen**, als die sind. Rosa wird, hoffe ich, Umgang an Anna Hammerschlag, einem vortrefflichen Mädchen finden ..." (Freud 1960, S. 94)

I'm having trouble phrasing this sequence of adjectives. No better, more human... persons / people? TIA

Yvonne Becker KudoZ etkinliği Sorular: 2363 (2 açık) (48 closed without grading) Yanıtlar: 2018 Venezuela
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Solution avoiding string of adjectives used attributively

Açıklama:
Ich kenne keine besseren, humaneren, allen unedlen Motiven ferneren Menschen, als die sind.
I know of no other people who are better, more humane and further removed from any base motives.
In my acquaintance there are none who are better, more humane and further removed from any base motives.

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Andrew Swift
Birleşik Krallık
Local time: 13:59

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See explanation

JSolis

4 +2

Siehe unten [NFG]

Richard Benham

3 +2

Solution avoiding string of adjectives used attributively

Andrew Swift

4 +1

I know of no other better and more humane people devoid of any ulterior motives

Girija Chatrath

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besseren, humaneren, allen unedlen Motiven ferneren Menschen See explanation

Açıklama:
"better, more humane people lacking in all ignoble motives"

Ignoble is a bit old-fashioned but appropriate for this time period.

JSolis
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besseren, humaneren, allen unedlen Motiven ferneren Menschen

Solution avoiding string of adjectives used attributively

Andrew Swift
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Thanks a lot and special thanks to Richard for his improvement suggestion.

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meslektaşların kabul sayısı (net): +1

besseren, humaneren, allen unedlen Motiven ferneren Menschen I know of no other better and more humane people devoid of any ulterior motives

Açıklama:
When talking about motives---it is normally a "hidden" or better phrased as "ulterior motive"
This looks like a text that should not be LITERALLY translated

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Note added at 1 hr 46 mins (2006-01-03 21:36:01 GMT)
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know of no other better and more compassionate people devoid of any ulterior motives

Girija Chatrath
Hindistan
Local time: 19:29
Anadili: İngilizce

12 saat güven düzeyi:

meslektaşların kabul sayısı (net): +2

besseren, humaneren, allen unedlen Motiven ferneren Menschen Siehe unten [NFG]

Açıklama:
I don't really see the need to preserve the plural here. So how about "No one I know is better, more humane or further removed from base/ignoble motives than these people"?

It might be argued that "further removed" is a bit old-fashioned and no longer idiomatic, but the German has a slightly old-world quality to it too.

As my answer is pretty close to Andrew's I am not making a bid for points here, just suggesting a minor improvement.

Note that there is no conjunction "und" or "oder" in the German. "Or" makes more sense in English than "and" though, as well as bestowing stronger praise.

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Note added at 16 hrs 19 mins (2006-01-04 12:09:20 GMT)
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Sorry, that should really be "any base/ignoble motives".

Richard Benham
Fransa
Local time: 14:59
Anadili: İngilizce

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Almanca: bessere, humanere, allen unedlen Motiven fernere Menschen

İngilizce translation: No one I know is better, more humane or further removed from base/ignoble motives than these people