frais de cachet

English translation: artist(s) fee(s)

09:27 Aug 4, 2015
French to English translations [PRO]
Bus/Financial - Finance (general) / Cultural event
French term or phrase: frais de cachet
This is from a contract between a government cultural affairs department and a Curator who is to organise a cultural event.

The "frais de cachet" are mentioned together with the "overall costs" (there is no breakdown) which are the overall budget for the event.

They are not referred to or defined elsewhere in the contract.
AllegroTrans
United Kingdom
Local time: 00:52
English translation:artist(s) fee(s)
Explanation:
le cachet is the name given to the artist fee in France

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Note added at 3 hrs (2015-08-04 12:31:20 GMT)
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La rémunération de l'artiste : paiement au cachet ou à l'heure ?
http://www.assistant-juridique.fr/remuneration_artistes.jsp

Chaque année, une question revient sur l'affiche des Vieilles Charrues : Mais quel est le cachet des artistes présents ?
http://vieilles-charrues.over-blog.com/2015/06/quel-prix-pou...

Festivals : les cachet des artistes orientés à la hausse
http://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/2011/07/08/04016-20110708...
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patrickfor
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Local time: 01:52
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4 +5artist(s) fee(s)
patrickfor
3 -2(curation) fee(s)
Ana Vozone


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28 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 3/5Answerer confidence 3/5 peer agreement (net): -2
(curation) fee(s)


Explanation:
Also, "curator's fee", "curator fee", "curatorship fee", or simply "fee".

Example sentence(s):
  • A. CURATION FEES 1. Curatorial Agreement. An annual $50.00 processing fee is required to establish or maintain a Curatorial Agreement with the Museum. The form may be found at: http://usueastern.edu/museum/about/documents/CuratorialAgreement.pdf.
  • The curator's fee for his residency and exhibition project is 3000 €. The curator's travel costs for one ticket go and back are in charge of the art
Ana Vozone
Local time: 00:52
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Native speaker of: Native in PortuguesePortuguese
PRO pts in category: 48

Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
neutral  Tony M: Note that your second bulleted example is in very poor EN and certainly not to be relied upon! / With added context, I don't think this is a 'curating' situation.
1 min
  -> Right about the poor quality of the second bullet. What about the first?

agree  TechLawDC: curator's fee and curation fee are both good, in the context.
53 mins
  -> Thank you!

disagree  AbrahamS: It's very unlikely that the word cachet would be used for the payment to a curator. It probably covers payment for the artists who will be involved in the event.
56 mins
  -> "Curator who is to organise a cultural event".... this is where the money is to go according to the asker's text.

neutral  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: From your source, "curation fee" would appear to be specific to an Agreement with a musueum (or cultrual structure) where the Curator works. Probably not a good fit here. The C is not acting as a C for the event, but as an organizer.
57 mins
  -> "Curator who is to organise a cultural event".... this is where the money is to go according to the asker's text.

disagree  writeaway: definitely not in this context.
1 hr

disagree  Daryo: ways too narrow - would apply only to a tiny minority of real life situations ... no reason to assume that this one of them!
8 hrs
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47 mins   confidence: Answerer confidence 4/5Answerer confidence 4/5 peer agreement (net): +5
artist(s) fee(s)


Explanation:
le cachet is the name given to the artist fee in France

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Note added at 3 hrs (2015-08-04 12:31:20 GMT)
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La rémunération de l'artiste : paiement au cachet ou à l'heure ?
http://www.assistant-juridique.fr/remuneration_artistes.jsp

Chaque année, une question revient sur l'affiche des Vieilles Charrues : Mais quel est le cachet des artistes présents ?
http://vieilles-charrues.over-blog.com/2015/06/quel-prix-pou...

Festivals : les cachet des artistes orientés à la hausse
http://www.lefigaro.fr/conjoncture/2011/07/08/04016-20110708...

patrickfor
France
Local time: 01:52
Native speaker of: Native in FrenchFrench
PRO pts in category: 4
Notes to answerer
Asker: Thanks! this makes sense


Peer comments on this answer (and responses from the answerer)
agree  AbrahamS
36 mins
  -> Merci !

agree  writeaway: oeuf corse. /ouat ailse? eye laike it.
38 mins
  -> ouat ailse? Merci !

agree  Nikki Scott-Despaigne: I'd expect "cachet" alone for "artist's fee". Either "frais de" is redundant or there are fees attached to the payment of the artist. In any event "artist's/-ts' fee" avoids the problem with effectiveness.
38 mins
  -> thanks Nikki. I guess "frais" is used in the sense of cost. Quite often in France you'll find "frais" used this way like in "frais de bouche", frais de transport".

neutral  philgoddard: You haven't given any references.
2 hrs
  -> sorry being French I didn't realise it could be an issue. See my notes I have added 3 examples. Google will give thousands.

agree  Daryo: or "performers' fees"
7 hrs
  -> Thanks Daryo, as a matter of fact I wasn't sure there wasn't a better expression. I knew this one was good enough but as for the most appropriate I leave it with you all...

agree  erwan-l: Bien sûr.
19 hrs
  -> Meci !
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